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cstanleytech

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51. In a world without a corrupt Repugnant party he would be impeached and the Senate would convict him
Mon Nov 26, 2018, 12:47 PM
Nov 2018

however the Repugnant party is corrupt in the world in which we live in so he will never be removed from office except if he is voted out or reaches his 2 term limit.
In fact my prediction if we tried impeachment is as follows.
#1 The Repugnants of the Senate and House (along with their PR firm of Fox & Putin) would decide to try to use it to rally their base by having the ones in districts where Trump is unpopular vote to impeach so now they would do the whole "MAGA!!! Them there liberals are out to get our President.".
#2 The Senate Repugpants would then order the Senators that have to run for election in 2020 that are vulnerable to anti Trump sentiment to convict however they would make sure that it would not be enough to reach the 2/3 threshold.

So really in the end trying to remove him would help the Repugnants more than anything so our best bet is to use our House majority to prevent him and the Repugnants from doing more harm to the country and get them to dance to our tune for a change.
One thing I would like our guys to do first is to work on a new budget that redirects as much federal spending in any strong red states as they legally can to use it to force the Repugnant Senators and House members to back our real budget and proposals such as reversing the taxes cuts on the ultra wealthy and corporations which have proven to be good only for increasing the budget deficient.

Oh and why the strong red states rather than moderate purple leaning ones? Because the purple we might win if we do not threaten them and give fuel to the moronic MAGA voters so we should offer them more help instead where as the red ones are a lost cause for now.

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(Unpopular opinion) Chump should not be impeached Dopers_Greed Nov 2018 #1
I agree. shanny Nov 2018 #3
I agree.. agingdem Nov 2018 #5
+1 Power 2 the People Nov 2018 #36
peach?? sorry and to think I was an English major in college... agingdem Nov 2018 #38
For what it's worth OriginalGeek Nov 2018 #77
agreed... agingdem Nov 2018 #81
This. nt libdem4life Nov 2018 #78
I agree it is better that he is a lame duck exboyfil Nov 2018 #11
Please enid602 Nov 2018 #84
No deals exboyfil Nov 2018 #86
I also agree. It could make Trump into a martyr. Best that he is exposed as a fraud, liar, etc. olegramps Nov 2018 #21
In a world without a corrupt Repugnant party he would be impeached and the Senate would convict him cstanleytech Nov 2018 #51
That's not what happens. 1st, it depends on thhe gravity of the charges onit2day Nov 2018 #68
Problem is the Repugnants had an equal duty to do their jobs as well which included being a check cstanleytech Nov 2018 #70
I agree. Dave Starsky Nov 2018 #88
I would rather see him indicted and tried. redstatebluegirl Nov 2018 #2
yes, let the courts handle Trump. And hit him in his wallet whenever possible. riversedge Nov 2018 #50
Yes, hitting him in the pocketbook will give him a fit conniption. eom sprinkleeninow Nov 2018 #79
It'll all turn on what, if anything, Mueller finds on Trump. Jedi Guy Nov 2018 #4
"High crimes" Scarsdale Nov 2018 #8
We did see what a fiasco the Clinton impeachment was. Archae Nov 2018 #18
The Muller report ScratchCat Nov 2018 #6
Don't know about that... robbob Nov 2018 #87
We are already torn apart. Impeach! AllyCat Nov 2018 #7
It will get much worse without Republican support for impeachment marylandblue Nov 2018 #9
All calls for justice require building a foundation before imposing punishment. Baitball Blogger Nov 2018 #34
I agree.with that. marylandblue Nov 2018 #40
I agree. Scarsdale Nov 2018 #10
Typical f**king Politico MISREPRESENTATION with their headline. What Nadler essentially said is still_one Nov 2018 #12
+1 H2O Man Nov 2018 #14
I second that motion................they are right wing rags turbinetree Nov 2018 #53
And how far do you think an impeachment would get in a Senate Trial? markpkessinger Nov 2018 #62
True, but if the evidence bu Mueller and any investigation is damning enough still_one Nov 2018 #73
You have more faith in Republicans than I do n/t markpkessinger Nov 2018 #74
Regardless, I still believe if the evidence is damning enough the House must try for impeachment, still_one Nov 2018 #75
The voice of truth and reason.Thanks still_one. Well said. onit2day Nov 2018 #69
The country is ALREADY torn apart. Scarsdale Nov 2018 #13
+1000 Power 2 the People Nov 2018 #37
This is how Democrats make me a little crazy BeyondGeography Nov 2018 #15
The headline is entirely misleading, and taken completely out of context, and misrepresents what still_one Nov 2018 #26
Actually, he was much more specific than that . . . markpkessinger Nov 2018 #66
It will never happen. If "W" wasn't held accountable for his total mess no one will...ever. walkingman Nov 2018 #16
Letting him run roughshod over the county... ALONG PARTY LINES... usaf-vet Nov 2018 #17
sure - how can it get worse? letting him run roughshod over the world for 2 more years, that's how. NRaleighLiberal Nov 2018 #19
I agree. Trump should not be impeached. Autumn Nov 2018 #20
Nadler is NOT saying he should not be impeached. That is an intentionally misleading headlline still_one Nov 2018 #27
I read it. Other people are saying he should be impeached. So far there is nothing to Autumn Nov 2018 #43
I had no doubt that you read it with the full context. still_one Nov 2018 #48
He also said they would have to consider . . . markpkessinger Nov 2018 #65
The duty of congress is the constitution and I heard the same nonsense beachbum bob Nov 2018 #22
The key is broad consensus and support against trump - the right remedies will follow empedocles Nov 2018 #23
First of all, how about waiting for the goddamned Mueller report first? Blue_Tires Nov 2018 #24
+ 1,000,000 Auggie Nov 2018 #32
I think Democrats should deflect questions about impeachment to investigations YessirAtsaFact Nov 2018 #25
Nope azureblue Nov 2018 #42
It will take months of public hearings to get people up to speed re Trump's crimes YessirAtsaFact Nov 2018 #46
There should be zero talk of impeachment until after Mueller's report Botany Nov 2018 #28
He deserves to be impeached but no Repubs would vote against him so he would "win." LonePirate Nov 2018 #29
+1 LastLiberal in PalmSprings Nov 2018 #35
Clickbait heading - this is a big part of our problem imho - even media on our side likes to Kashkakat v.2.0 Nov 2018 #30
So fucking crazy. The Republicans have defined themselves as the party or right and justice, Baitball Blogger Nov 2018 #31
Amazed.. Maxheader Nov 2018 #33
If the crimes were committed, it is symbolically important to impeach Renew Deal Nov 2018 #39
Gawd what a ridiculous frame azureblue Nov 2018 #41
No one should be coming out saying this so early........ Chakaconcarne Nov 2018 #44
Impeachment and trial as evidence justifies. Let the GOP derail the process. NCjack Nov 2018 #45
There are a lot of voters out there who are fence sitters on an issue like this . . . markpkessinger Nov 2018 #72
He's right, of course. MineralMan Nov 2018 #47
We all seem to forget that Nixon was re-elected in an overwhelming landslide, but just... TreasonousBastard Nov 2018 #49
If cutting out this tumor counts as "tearing they country apart" I'm all for it -nt Freelancer Nov 2018 #52
It is unlikely we would succeed in removing the tumor . . . markpkessinger Nov 2018 #71
Too late liberal N proud Nov 2018 #54
Why don't we see what we find first? SHRED Nov 2018 #55
If we stand up to the sessionists.... Toorich Nov 2018 #56
Trump has already torn this country apart... HopeAgain Nov 2018 #57
Expose his crimes, report it and then proceed kimbutgar Nov 2018 #58
Investigate, investigate, investigate. Reveal reveal reveal. truthisfreedom Nov 2018 #59
I agree mcar Nov 2018 #60
The only thing worse than not impeaching Trump . . . markpkessinger Nov 2018 #61
If HIGH CRIMES have been committed it is the DUTY of Congress to IMPEACH Martin Eden Nov 2018 #63
Sure . . . markpkessinger Nov 2018 #67
I don't expect impeachment to succeed in the Senate Martin Eden Nov 2018 #85
We MUST impeach! Trump and the GOP have already torn this country apart. Liberty Belle Nov 2018 #64
You mean like denying a President a Supreme Court appointment should've 'torn the country apart'? Hugin Nov 2018 #76
I am fine with savagely beating up the Party of Trump for the next 24 months. Vinnie From Indy Nov 2018 #80
A lot is riding on the Mueller investigation. Even some Republicans may agree to impeach. YOHABLO Nov 2018 #82
I believe it will go far to heal the country.... joanbarnes Nov 2018 #83
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