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In reply to the discussion: Democrats change platform to add God, Jerusalem [View all]azurnoir
(45,850 posts)175. okay
United States
Greater Jerusalem, May 2006. CIA remote sensing map showing what they regard as settlements, plus refugee camps, fences, walls, etc.
United States The United States views as desirable the establishing of an international regime for the city.[32] Its final status must be resolved through negotiations[33] and it does not recognise Jerusalem as Israel's capital.[34]
United States policy on Jerusalem refers specifically to the geographic boundaries of the "City of Jerusalem" based on the UN's corpus separatum proposal. De jure, Jerusalem is part of the Palestine Mandate and has not been under sovereignty of any country since.[35][36] President Bush (19891993) stated that the United States does not believe new settlements should be built in East Jerusalem[37] and that it does not want to see Jerusalem "divided". In a speech in June 2008, then-presidential-candidate Barack Obama said "Jerusalem will remain the capital of Israel, and it must remain undivided."[38] The Obama administration has condemned expansion of Gilo and Ramat Shlomo as well as evictions and house demolitions affecting Palestinians living in East Jerusalem.[39][40][41]
The United States voted for the United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine in November 1947 and United Nations General Assembly Resolution 194 in December 1948 following the 1948 Arab-Israeli War but voted against Resolution 303 in December 1949 that reaffirmed that Jerusalem be established a corpus separatum under a special international regime to be administered by the United Nations because the U.S. regarded the plan as no longer feasible after both Israel and Jordan had established a political presence in the city.[42] The U.S. opposed Israel's moving its capital from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem following Israel's declaration of Jerusalem as its capital in 1949 and opposed Jordan's plan to make Jerusalem its second capital announced in 1950.[42] The U.S. opposed Israel's annexation of East Jerusalem after the 1967 war.[42] The United States maintains a consulate in Jerusalem that deals primarily with the Palestinian Authority, while relations with the Israeli government are handled from the U.S. embassy in Tel Aviv. The U.S. consulate is not accredited to the Israeli government.[43] The United States has proposed that the future of Jerusalem should be the subject of a negotiated settlement.[42] Subsequent administrations have maintained the same policy that Jerusalem's future not be the subject of unilateral actions that could prejudice negotiations such as moving the U.S. Embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem.[42] In 2002, Congress passed legislation that said that American citizens born in Jerusalem may list "Israel" as their country of birth, although Presidents George W. Bush and Barack Obama have not allowed it.[44] The US maintains six buildings in Jerusalem with a staff of 471. In 2010 it had a budget of $96
million[45]
Greater Jerusalem, May 2006. CIA remote sensing map showing what they regard as settlements, plus refugee camps, fences, walls, etc.
United States The United States views as desirable the establishing of an international regime for the city.[32] Its final status must be resolved through negotiations[33] and it does not recognise Jerusalem as Israel's capital.[34]
United States policy on Jerusalem refers specifically to the geographic boundaries of the "City of Jerusalem" based on the UN's corpus separatum proposal. De jure, Jerusalem is part of the Palestine Mandate and has not been under sovereignty of any country since.[35][36] President Bush (19891993) stated that the United States does not believe new settlements should be built in East Jerusalem[37] and that it does not want to see Jerusalem "divided". In a speech in June 2008, then-presidential-candidate Barack Obama said "Jerusalem will remain the capital of Israel, and it must remain undivided."[38] The Obama administration has condemned expansion of Gilo and Ramat Shlomo as well as evictions and house demolitions affecting Palestinians living in East Jerusalem.[39][40][41]
The United States voted for the United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine in November 1947 and United Nations General Assembly Resolution 194 in December 1948 following the 1948 Arab-Israeli War but voted against Resolution 303 in December 1949 that reaffirmed that Jerusalem be established a corpus separatum under a special international regime to be administered by the United Nations because the U.S. regarded the plan as no longer feasible after both Israel and Jordan had established a political presence in the city.[42] The U.S. opposed Israel's moving its capital from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem following Israel's declaration of Jerusalem as its capital in 1949 and opposed Jordan's plan to make Jerusalem its second capital announced in 1950.[42] The U.S. opposed Israel's annexation of East Jerusalem after the 1967 war.[42] The United States maintains a consulate in Jerusalem that deals primarily with the Palestinian Authority, while relations with the Israeli government are handled from the U.S. embassy in Tel Aviv. The U.S. consulate is not accredited to the Israeli government.[43] The United States has proposed that the future of Jerusalem should be the subject of a negotiated settlement.[42] Subsequent administrations have maintained the same policy that Jerusalem's future not be the subject of unilateral actions that could prejudice negotiations such as moving the U.S. Embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem.[42] In 2002, Congress passed legislation that said that American citizens born in Jerusalem may list "Israel" as their country of birth, although Presidents George W. Bush and Barack Obama have not allowed it.[44] The US maintains six buildings in Jerusalem with a staff of 471. In 2010 it had a budget of $96
million[45]
oh and thanks for critiquing my syntax always a sign of a winning argument
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I thought it was pretty ballsy in the first place, although politically not smart. But they
gateley
Sep 2012
#6
unfortunatley this is a pipedream peoples religious beliefs colours their votes. whether you like it
loli phabay
Sep 2012
#81
I think that someone figured out the main attack that will be used against Democrats this year...
PassingFair
Sep 2012
#192
Agree. The majority of Dems are part of the problem on many, if not most, issues.
byeya
Sep 2012
#21
There are lots of Palestinians who would, umm, not think highly of your atheism.
Psephos
Sep 2012
#88
Well, I am not speaking ill of Israel - I am speaking ill of the fact that far
truedelphi
Sep 2012
#43
you know a lot of those "jewish people" you talk about are US Citizens who do vote and fundraise
loli phabay
Sep 2012
#59
well its pretty much up to the israelis if they want it as their capital which it has been for 60 yr
loli phabay
Sep 2012
#79
Do you know that East Jerusalem is occupied territory and not part of Israel?
Violet_Crumble
Sep 2012
#96
I wouldn't be upset if it passed for real but they totally passed it without the 2/3rd majority.
joshcryer
Sep 2012
#113
AP source: Obama personally intervened to change Democrat platform language on Jerusalem, God
Tx4obama
Sep 2012
#38
Just when I thought Dems had grown a spine. What a farce! I don't care what the capital
LoisB
Sep 2012
#52
I think it was 1950 that Jerusalem became the capital, i may be wrong but it always has been
loli phabay
Sep 2012
#60
well if the israelis say its their capital then it pretty much is unless you believe that people
loli phabay
Sep 2012
#101
No, they can't make something that's not part of Israel their capital...
Violet_Crumble
Sep 2012
#103
In what world do you live in that a country can't desinate what its capital is???
former9thward
Sep 2012
#73
That'd be the world that believes in international law. East Jerusalem is occupied...
Violet_Crumble
Sep 2012
#99
and how many countries have their embassies in Jerusalem? Is the US embassy in Jerusalem?
azurnoir
Sep 2012
#104
Where countries have their embassy does not determine what their capital is.
former9thward
Sep 2012
#155
why does no country have its embassy in Jerusalem? you avoided an answer by providing a strawman
azurnoir
Sep 2012
#156
first off both Clinton and Obama have deferred the the Jerusalem embassy act which apparently you
azurnoir
Sep 2012
#166
Fine, I'm sure you will link to Clinton, Bush, Obama giving that as the reason.
former9thward
Sep 2012
#170
so because Israel moved its government to East Jerusalem that makes it official
azurnoir
Sep 2012
#167
I personally am dismayed by this cowardly capitulation to RW zealots of both parties.
BlueMTexpat
Sep 2012
#61
Because Jerusalem in the capital of Israel. They need to know we support our friends.
Pterodactyl
Sep 2012
#102
Don't really care about the Jerusalem thing, but why should any God be mentioned?
Humanist_Activist
Sep 2012
#107
Nothing, just telling you how helpful describing someone by behaviorially non-descriptive terms is.
Humanist_Activist
Sep 2012
#179
Ok, let me elaborate, you call someone a Christian, all that means to me is that this is someone...
Humanist_Activist
Sep 2012
#182
Actually I'm laughing at your statement, which, given the sheer number of denominations that...
Humanist_Activist
Sep 2012
#196
Required a 2/3's vote. The NOs had it. The Chair, Villaraigosa, bold face lied after THREE votes.
w4rma
Sep 2012
#85
Difficult to complain about election fraud when the DNC cares nothing about actual vote counts.
hugo_from_TN
Sep 2012
#152
It is all pretty silly, but I honestly think the worse thing to do at this point
Proles
Sep 2012
#97
I don't believe it quite rises to the level of the failed Bay of Pigs invasion of Cuba in 1962
slackmaster
Sep 2012
#144
LOL That would certainly be more efficient. I'm sure they will do that next time.
limpyhobbler
Sep 2012
#147
when I was a boy national conventions of both political parities were contentious events where fights
Douglas Carpenter
Sep 2012
#128
If Tel Aviv is the capital of Israel, why does the Knesset meet in Jerusalem?
Freddie Stubbs
Sep 2012
#129
Former Ohio Gov. Strickland introduced it and mentioned he was a Methodist minister
Kolesar
Sep 2012
#185
This is why I would not waste my time or money going to a national convention
dflprincess
Sep 2012
#197