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Ken Burch

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31. Posts like that won't help them get over it.
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 01:31 AM
Sep 2012

And here's the thing...Quebec is a francophone province(let's face it, for all practical purposes a francophone nation)surrounded by a sea of anglophone arrogance on three sides(English Canada to the east and west, the U.S. to the south). The anglophones on those three sides have never really accepted that a non-anglophone culture has the right to exist in their midst(the U.S. is bad about that with other languages...half of the reason Puerto Rico isn't a state yet is that right-wing U.S. politicians can't tolerate the idea of any state where English isn't the main or sole language-and, let's face it, does anybody here think people in the Southwest would give a damn about "illegals" if California, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas shared a border with England?)

If the ROC(the "Rest of Canada", as some refer to it)were to just say to Quebec "ok, you're francophone, you have your own distinct culture, and we won't ever try to do anything to dilute that or change it, and you have every right to be angry because of all the hateful shite we pulled towards you in the old day", the dynamic would be a lot different.

But that won't happen anytime soon, in part because Stephen Harper, the current Canadian prime minister, is trying to personally build support back up for the Bloc Quebecois party at the next election, through a policy of endlessly goading Quebec and belittling its cultural and linguistic concerns. Harper is doing this because:

A) like most right-wing English Canadian politicians, Harper doesn't really want to see Canada survive(he'd really, deep down inside, rather see it absorbed into a North American right-wing federation..."Greater Tejanostan", in effect)

B) The Bloc, if it were to revive, would take votes almost entirely from the federal New Democratic Party(NDP)the social-democratic official opposition, which currently holds the vast majority of Quebec seats in the Canadian House of Commons.

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That blows beyond belief sharp_stick Sep 2012 #1
It's looking like a minority government, so yeah Posteritatis Sep 2012 #2
Gerrymandering is an art form up there sharp_stick Sep 2012 #4
That's more an artifact of FPTP than gerrymandering Posteritatis Sep 2012 #5
Are you from Nova Scotia? Ken Burch Sep 2012 #26
They weren't tied, but it was really close - 23 seats to 20 (and the Liberals' 9) Posteritatis Sep 2012 #27
Thanks for the response. On an entirely different note... Ken Burch Sep 2012 #28
There's plenty of events centred around that, more often in the summer of course Posteritatis Sep 2012 #29
The PQ aren't racists. Ken Burch Sep 2012 #6
"Par l'argent puis des votes ethniques." Sure, no racism in that party... (nt) Posteritatis Sep 2012 #9
That was Jacques Parizeau, and he's been out of power for years. Ken Burch Sep 2012 #12
They aren't racist. They are chauvinists. Huge difference that escapes you. Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2012 #13
They are not "racist assholes" and nothing like Teabillies. Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2012 #10
Sure... sharp_stick Sep 2012 #24
Crap. chollybocker Sep 2012 #3
That is utter bullshit. Ken Burch Sep 2012 #7
Utter nonsense. Ken Burch states it well. nt. Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2012 #11
Some pictures of THIS year's candidates for the "racist" PQ Ken Burch Sep 2012 #17
Sooooo posting pictures of different looking folks within it means they aren't a party of bigots? ProudToBeBlueInRhody Sep 2012 #18
The number of PQ candidates of color(most of whom were elected)is a much larger percentage Ken Burch Sep 2012 #19
I know bigots when I see them ProudToBeBlueInRhody Sep 2012 #21
Oh stop it, both of you. chollybocker Sep 2012 #20
You didn't touch a nerve, you spread a discredited smear. Ken Burch Sep 2012 #23
The best news of the night is that a new party, the left-wing Quebec Solidaire Ken Burch Sep 2012 #8
I see some positives in this too. Joe Shlabotnik Sep 2012 #15
I would have voted for that party. David__77 Sep 2012 #22
WOW. KatyaR Sep 2012 #14
Wow! Kber Sep 2012 #16
Bump. n/t Tx4obama Sep 2012 #25
I Quebec doesn't get over it's obsession with language and Quebec culture, whatever that is, they're Monk06 Sep 2012 #30
Posts like that won't help them get over it. Ken Burch Sep 2012 #31
I agree with almost everything you say and I consider Quebec a culture and even a sovereignty Monk06 Sep 2012 #32
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