To be fair, it's what was reported that got people upset. (Reply #24)

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Response to Jedi Guy (Reply #23)

Sun Dec 16, 2018, 09:14 PM

Honeycombe8 (37,648 posts)

24. To be fair, it's what was reported that got people upset.

So it was the reporting. I believe, but can't be sure since I don't remember, the source of those facts. I thought it was the CPB itself.

I don't want to blame CPB, if they didn't do anything wrong. Unfair of you to characterize people's reactions to what was REPORTED. It's not as if they assumed the facts.

It was reported she died of dehydration and had been days crossing the desert without water. And that CPB had not given her water, when they picked her up. That is in and of itself negligence, on the face of things. No jumping to conclusions.

But now it's being reported that she had not been days crossing the desert, only 90 minutes after a dropoff in Mexico. Quite a difference.

The mindset that everyone wants someone innocent to hang for a tragedy is not helpful.

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85 replies	Author	Time	Post
Father of Guatemalan girl who died in US custody has 'no complaints' about her treatment, consul say [View all]	Jedi Guy	Dec 2018	OP
The US government is aware of the Humanitarian Crisis and has not implemented	delisen	Dec 2018	#1
We must understand	Timmygoat	Dec 2018	#2
bingo	dembotoz	Dec 2018	#5
Exactly right. What are his options?	marble falls	Dec 2018	#7
Prove your assertion with evidence.	eratznod	Dec 2018	#8
Welcome to DU. Actually there is no evidence of anything, just facts and a child's remains ...	marble falls	Dec 2018	#11
No evidence of that. Yet.	Kaleva	Dec 2018	#10
"terrified of going back to a country that is too horrific to even imagine" lol	EX500rider	Dec 2018	#13
Ya, its history reads like a fairytale. na	fleabiscuit	Dec 2018	#17
It's history does not change the fact that Jamaica & the Bahamas are more dangerous. n/a	EX500rider	Dec 2018	#21
The fact that other countries are more violent does	John Fante	Dec 2018	#31
27.26 out of 100,000 is pretty good odds.	EX500rider	Dec 2018	#32
Exactly!	laserhaas	Dec 2018	#50
The problem is that our entire response to this crisis is inadequate.	yardwork	Dec 2018	#3
Inaccurate headline. The father wants an investigation & her cause of death determined.	SunSeeker	Dec 2018	#4
Oh give me a break.	Jedi Guy	Dec 2018	#9
He still has more family to take care of who are still alive. nt	fleabiscuit	Dec 2018	#14
This is a discussion board. If you're bothered by that, go elsewhere.	SunSeeker	Dec 2018	#15
Nah, I think I'll stay, thanks.	Jedi Guy	Dec 2018	#22
And you're welcome to skip my posts.	SunSeeker	Dec 2018	#27
Yes what is up with Jedi Guy pushing the rightwing pro-Trump line?	sharedvalues	Dec 2018	#29
Oh for fuck's sake, knock it off.	Jedi Guy	Dec 2018	#34
Thou doth protest too much, methinks.	SunSeeker	Dec 2018	#66
Annnnnnnnnnnnnnd there you go again, twisting and smearing away.	Jedi Guy	Dec 2018	#67
Uh huh. You mad.	SunSeeker	Dec 2018	#70
Not particularly, no. Why would I be?	Jedi Guy	Dec 2018	#71
LOL	SunSeeker	Dec 2018	#79
Yep, you got me, SunSeeker!	Jedi Guy	Dec 2018	#80
LOL Speaking of "delusions of your own importance," here, let me quote you:	SunSeeker	Dec 2018	#81
Post removed	Post removed	Dec 2018	#82
I'm flinging your own quotes.	SunSeeker	Dec 2018	#83
When the facts are in, if it is determined CBP was indeed negligent, I'll be happy to condemn them.	Jedi Guy	Dec 2018	#33
We have facts we can comment on now. You are just ignoring them.	SunSeeker	Dec 2018	#37
My entire point is that commenting and forming conclusions is premature.	Jedi Guy	Dec 2018	#40
Yet you conclude in the OP that CBP "did the best they could."	SunSeeker	Dec 2018	#49
Your emphasis there missed two key words: sounds like.	Jedi Guy	Dec 2018	#52
That is just silly. We have a right to comment on CBP just like you did.	SunSeeker	Dec 2018	#58
If you say so, SunSeeker.	Jedi Guy	Dec 2018	#60
I see you're resorting to sophistry.	SunSeeker	Dec 2018	#68
I see that you don't know what either of those words means.	Jedi Guy	Dec 2018	#76
LOL Project away. nt	SunSeeker	Dec 2018	#78
Jedi Guy: Your post is filled with rightwing talking points	sharedvalues	Dec 2018	#28
Is it really? Which ones are those, exactly?	Jedi Guy	Dec 2018	#35
You describe yourself as the self-appointed opinion police of progressive opinion on this site.	SunSeeker	Dec 2018	#38
LOL, you're a stitch, SunSeeker.	Jedi Guy	Dec 2018	#41
I see you think you are the only one who can decide when the "full facts" have emerged.	SunSeeker	Dec 2018	#44
If you're going to quote me, at least get it right.	Jedi Guy	Dec 2018	#46
You are projecting and being hypocritical.	SunSeeker	Dec 2018	#53
And there you go again, misrepresenting and twisting.	Jedi Guy	Dec 2018	#55
I see you are the typo police too. nt	SunSeeker	Dec 2018	#59
Yeah, I get paid double for catching typos.	Jedi Guy	Dec 2018	#61
I respect DU readers	sharedvalues	Dec 2018	#73
Nah, it doesn't work that way.	Jedi Guy	Dec 2018	#75
Much easier to push a narrative while cowering behind implication.	LanternWaste	Dec 2018	#84
You undeniably echo rightwing talking points	sharedvalues	Dec 2018	#85
Maybe if they had just granted her a temporary protected status and helped her family ...	marble falls	Dec 2018	#6
Still on your watch.	Corgigal	Dec 2018	#12
Hmmm. An incarcerated father, in a position of total weakness, says his incarcerators...	Honeycombe8	Dec 2018	#16
He was speaking to personnel from his country's consulate. He has no reason to lie to them.	Jedi Guy	Dec 2018	#23
To be fair, it's what was reported that got people upset.	Honeycombe8	Dec 2018	#24
I didn't say everyone wants someone innocent to hang.	Jedi Guy	Dec 2018	#25
He was imprisoned. And your headline jumps to conclusions.	sharedvalues	Dec 2018	#30
So because he was imprisoned, it follows logically that he lied to an official from his consulate?	Jedi Guy	Dec 2018	#36
He is not free to leave. He is trying to get asylum.	SunSeeker	Dec 2018	#39
It's starting to become clear now, I think.	Jedi Guy	Dec 2018	#42
Most likely, the same one alleging...	LanternWaste	Dec 2018	#43
Was wondering when you'd show up, old friend.	Jedi Guy	Dec 2018	#47
Your attack on DUers is gratuitous.	SunSeeker	Dec 2018	#45
I'm sorry you think that an observation about people playing the Blame Game is "gratuitous."	Jedi Guy	Dec 2018	#48
I accept that your opinion is different. You are the one who can't accept others' opinions.	SunSeeker	Dec 2018	#51
I can absolutely accept that others' opinions differ, and I can absolutely comment on them.	Jedi Guy	Dec 2018	#54
You are the one getting "worked up" by people pointing out how wrong and hypocritical you are.	SunSeeker	Dec 2018	#62
If you say so, SunSeeker.	Jedi Guy	Dec 2018	#63
Yes, you are.	SunSeeker	Dec 2018	#69
Yes. He was imprisoned, so this is coercive.	sharedvalues	Dec 2018	#72
The inmates the Red Cross interviewed at Theredienstadt	dflprincess	Dec 2018	#18
Disgusting, ignorant, and offensive comment	oberliner	Dec 2018	#19
Maybe calling it a concetration camp is too much for you, but the Tornillo camp in Texas is evil.	SunSeeker	Dec 2018	#20
Why?	dpibel	Dec 2018	#26
Is he still in custody?	Squinch	Dec 2018	#56
Per the article, he's at a migrant shelter in El Paso called Annunciation House.	Jedi Guy	Dec 2018	#57
But he's still a guy in a very vulnerable position whose arm could easily be twisted.	Squinch	Dec 2018	#64
I'd agree with you but for one fact.	Jedi Guy	Dec 2018	#65
Absolutely. Coercive situation. He's jailed	sharedvalues	Dec 2018	#74
Will the Bush WH learn from this? Ridiculous that the people in power	applegrove	Dec 2018	#77

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