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Honeycombe8

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7. If there is a strike, many people will start thinking, "Maybe that Scott Walker had something...
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 07:44 AM
Sep 2012

in his state. Maybe this public workers' union thing has gotten out of hand."

Fair or not, I guarantee you that will cross a lot of minds. And that will possibly begin the downfall of govt unions in Illinois.

Maybe the unhappiness among the teacher's union in Chicago is warranted. But we are coming out of a deep, deep recession, where millions lost their jobs, lots of businesses went out of business, and federal and state funds bank accounts have run dry. Everyone will be experiencing decreases in pay and benefits. I have, friends I know have, everyone has. Teachers will, too. Maybe they have taken pay cuts already, so that's why they're unhappy? Maybe so.

Just sayin'. That is one reason that unions have taken such a hit in recent years. AA workers went on strike after 9/11, when airlines' business went way down because lots of people quit flying. And here in my city, AT&T union workers were picketing downtown and talking strike in the midst of the recession a few years ago. I was aghast when I saw that: hundreds of thousands of people losing their jobs every month, companies folding, even the AT&T CEO had not taken his bonus or something that year. And AT&T workers were picketing because they were being asked to contribute, in their retirement package, to the cost of their health insurance that they get in their retirement years. Not pay in full, but contribute. It doesn't look good, other people resent it, and it affects the public perception of unions.

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The key point in the argument against a strike.... AnneD Sep 2012 #1
Remember just a couple of years ago. Fuddnik Sep 2012 #2
It's a pity the teachers aren't heavily armed and besieging the beloved Rahm. Vidar Sep 2012 #3
Romney supporters infiltrating the unions? How condescending. erodriguez Sep 2012 #4
I thought it was the STATE that governs the state public schools. There is no nat'l school system. Honeycombe8 Sep 2012 #6
You can't tell me.... AnneD Sep 2012 #8
Why would the President care? OnlinePoker Sep 2012 #18
Speaks volumes milwaukeelib33 Sep 2012 #19
I am supporting unions! Scabs supporting school voucher crap like you are part of the problem IMO. lonestarnot Sep 2012 #42
wut? n/t milwaukeelib33 Sep 2012 #45
Teachers are under assault sulphurdunn Sep 2012 #17
Federal policy particularly Race to the Top has enormous influence on the states. erodriguez Sep 2012 #22
Illinois is facing some tough budgets milwaukeelib33 Sep 2012 #5
If there is a strike, many people will start thinking, "Maybe that Scott Walker had something... Honeycombe8 Sep 2012 #7
Ouch milwaukeelib33 Sep 2012 #9
I'm not taking a position at all, much less a political one. I'm just pointing out.... Honeycombe8 Sep 2012 #13
Agree 100% milwaukeelib33 Sep 2012 #14
Maybe other people should get off their asses and start fighting too. Fuddnik Sep 2012 #11
Don't shoot the messenger. I'm just saying that that is one of the effects. Honeycombe8 Sep 2012 #12
Shareholders did take a big hit on dividends.... AnneD Sep 2012 #30
Public workers union getting out of hand ??????? AnneD Sep 2012 #15
Maybe a letter to the editor of your local newspaper would help the perception. Honeycombe8 Sep 2012 #16
How about this.... AnneD Sep 2012 #25
Stop attacking me, please. This will be my last reponse in this thread. Honeycombe8 Sep 2012 #28
As someone who also lives in Wisconsin, I agree forthemiddle Sep 2012 #40
These days a lot of morons define "getting out of hand" as "existing." (nt) Posteritatis Sep 2012 #31
ITA..... AnneD Sep 2012 #33
Definitely, especially with the hostility towards them these days Posteritatis Sep 2012 #39
This is the stock argument sulphurdunn Sep 2012 #23
RE: your first paragraph........ socialist_n_TN Sep 2012 #37
I live in Chicago, and my daughter is in first grade in a CPS school alcibiades_mystery Sep 2012 #10
Thank you for your support.... AnneD Sep 2012 #20
Get a job, hippie! Fuddnik Sep 2012 #21
Now isn't that.... AnneD Sep 2012 #26
I got three of 'em. sulphurdunn Sep 2012 #27
Sulphurdunn... AnneD Sep 2012 #34
Great post. You said it all. senseandsensibility Sep 2012 #24
Child Care? A professional's "ultimate" bargaining chip? Can't believe you went there. ancianita Sep 2012 #41
I too object to teachers being seen as babysitters. senseandsensibility Sep 2012 #43
Thank You. Starry Messenger Sep 2012 #29
Your support is an important ingredient in the success of changing the conditions we expect midnight Sep 2012 #44
We, that is the Chicago Teachers ....haven't been on stike in at least 20 years. Stuart G Sep 2012 #32
Please let your friends know..... AnneD Sep 2012 #35
Of course - how could I not see it before? Organized labour is a ploy by the right-wing... harmonicon Sep 2012 #36
From Worker's Power on the Chicago teacher's situation....... socialist_n_TN Sep 2012 #38
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