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In reply to the discussion: School Year Just Begun, Teachers Strike Looms in Chicago [View all]Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)12. Don't shoot the messenger. I'm just saying that that is one of the effects.
The unions need public support. It's a bad visual for people to be picketing or striking to get or keep something, in the midst of a deep recession with millions losing their jobs and their homes. It causes resentment and feeds the perception that unions are greedy.
What you say is true. But what I say is true, also, IMO.
No skin off my nose. I'm just pointing out that a victory for the short term in some cases leads to a loss in the long term.
(BTW...shareholders did take big hits on dividends and share value during the recession. Companies were taking huge losses, generally, as well. Everyone was suffering. Except some union workers, who continued, and expected to continue, along as if there was no storm of a recession around them.)
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I thought it was the STATE that governs the state public schools. There is no nat'l school system.
Honeycombe8
Sep 2012
#6
I am supporting unions! Scabs supporting school voucher crap like you are part of the problem IMO.
lonestarnot
Sep 2012
#42
Federal policy particularly Race to the Top has enormous influence on the states.
erodriguez
Sep 2012
#22
If there is a strike, many people will start thinking, "Maybe that Scott Walker had something...
Honeycombe8
Sep 2012
#7
I'm not taking a position at all, much less a political one. I'm just pointing out....
Honeycombe8
Sep 2012
#13
Don't shoot the messenger. I'm just saying that that is one of the effects.
Honeycombe8
Sep 2012
#12
Maybe a letter to the editor of your local newspaper would help the perception.
Honeycombe8
Sep 2012
#16
These days a lot of morons define "getting out of hand" as "existing." (nt)
Posteritatis
Sep 2012
#31
I live in Chicago, and my daughter is in first grade in a CPS school
alcibiades_mystery
Sep 2012
#10
Child Care? A professional's "ultimate" bargaining chip? Can't believe you went there.
ancianita
Sep 2012
#41
Your support is an important ingredient in the success of changing the conditions we expect
midnight
Sep 2012
#44
We, that is the Chicago Teachers ....haven't been on stike in at least 20 years.
Stuart G
Sep 2012
#32
Of course - how could I not see it before? Organized labour is a ploy by the right-wing...
harmonicon
Sep 2012
#36