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AnneD

(15,774 posts)
15. Public workers union getting out of hand ???????
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 10:23 AM
Sep 2012

Union membership has steadily declined with public sectors, while declining, still having membership. Breaking the public employees union is a planned part of destroying any ability for workers to stand up for their rights. This has been the goal of corperate America since Reagan took on PATCO.

Public sector workers earn less for the same type of work done in the private sector. Many schools had opted out of the social security years ago, so all teachers have is what the state has contributed (through negotiation) and what they have contributed from their own pocket. And on top of that, because of laws passed, some of these same teacher (usually female) cannot even get survivors benefits from their husband's social security. Yeah, how many of the public know that little gem. And in some states, like Illinois, the state government has routinely raided or underfunded their pension obligations to the teachers. I would not want to rely on a pension from Illinois.

Think joblessness is bad....try being a poorly paid educated professional and after a lifetime of work and sacrifice, be kicked to the curb with nothing, not even a safety net. And they want you to sacrifice what little you have to make up for their stupid, spineless planning.

Every one wants the kids to be educated but no one wants to pay for it.

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The key point in the argument against a strike.... AnneD Sep 2012 #1
Remember just a couple of years ago. Fuddnik Sep 2012 #2
It's a pity the teachers aren't heavily armed and besieging the beloved Rahm. Vidar Sep 2012 #3
Romney supporters infiltrating the unions? How condescending. erodriguez Sep 2012 #4
I thought it was the STATE that governs the state public schools. There is no nat'l school system. Honeycombe8 Sep 2012 #6
You can't tell me.... AnneD Sep 2012 #8
Why would the President care? OnlinePoker Sep 2012 #18
Speaks volumes milwaukeelib33 Sep 2012 #19
I am supporting unions! Scabs supporting school voucher crap like you are part of the problem IMO. lonestarnot Sep 2012 #42
wut? n/t milwaukeelib33 Sep 2012 #45
Teachers are under assault sulphurdunn Sep 2012 #17
Federal policy particularly Race to the Top has enormous influence on the states. erodriguez Sep 2012 #22
Illinois is facing some tough budgets milwaukeelib33 Sep 2012 #5
If there is a strike, many people will start thinking, "Maybe that Scott Walker had something... Honeycombe8 Sep 2012 #7
Ouch milwaukeelib33 Sep 2012 #9
I'm not taking a position at all, much less a political one. I'm just pointing out.... Honeycombe8 Sep 2012 #13
Agree 100% milwaukeelib33 Sep 2012 #14
Maybe other people should get off their asses and start fighting too. Fuddnik Sep 2012 #11
Don't shoot the messenger. I'm just saying that that is one of the effects. Honeycombe8 Sep 2012 #12
Shareholders did take a big hit on dividends.... AnneD Sep 2012 #30
Public workers union getting out of hand ??????? AnneD Sep 2012 #15
Maybe a letter to the editor of your local newspaper would help the perception. Honeycombe8 Sep 2012 #16
How about this.... AnneD Sep 2012 #25
Stop attacking me, please. This will be my last reponse in this thread. Honeycombe8 Sep 2012 #28
As someone who also lives in Wisconsin, I agree forthemiddle Sep 2012 #40
These days a lot of morons define "getting out of hand" as "existing." (nt) Posteritatis Sep 2012 #31
ITA..... AnneD Sep 2012 #33
Definitely, especially with the hostility towards them these days Posteritatis Sep 2012 #39
This is the stock argument sulphurdunn Sep 2012 #23
RE: your first paragraph........ socialist_n_TN Sep 2012 #37
I live in Chicago, and my daughter is in first grade in a CPS school alcibiades_mystery Sep 2012 #10
Thank you for your support.... AnneD Sep 2012 #20
Get a job, hippie! Fuddnik Sep 2012 #21
Now isn't that.... AnneD Sep 2012 #26
I got three of 'em. sulphurdunn Sep 2012 #27
Sulphurdunn... AnneD Sep 2012 #34
Great post. You said it all. senseandsensibility Sep 2012 #24
Child Care? A professional's "ultimate" bargaining chip? Can't believe you went there. ancianita Sep 2012 #41
I too object to teachers being seen as babysitters. senseandsensibility Sep 2012 #43
Thank You. Starry Messenger Sep 2012 #29
Your support is an important ingredient in the success of changing the conditions we expect midnight Sep 2012 #44
We, that is the Chicago Teachers ....haven't been on stike in at least 20 years. Stuart G Sep 2012 #32
Please let your friends know..... AnneD Sep 2012 #35
Of course - how could I not see it before? Organized labour is a ploy by the right-wing... harmonicon Sep 2012 #36
From Worker's Power on the Chicago teacher's situation....... socialist_n_TN Sep 2012 #38
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