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In reply to the discussion: Pennsylvania to impose asset test for food stamps [View all]JPZenger
(6,819 posts)75. Good new article on this topic from Phila. Tribune writer
http://www.newpittsburghcourieronline.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=6222:proposed-change-in-eligibility-rules-endangers-food-stamps-for-170000-pennsylvanians&catid=39:national&Itemid=2
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"John Manton is struggling to hang on unemployed, without health insurance, worried about keeping his home. Hes now also concerned that proposed changes to eligibility requirements for food stamps will leave him worried about something else: putting food on the table. He receives about $37 a week in food stamps toward food bills that average about $51 a week. That assistance would vanish for Manton and about 170,000 other Pennsylvanians under a proposed change in rules that would require food stamp recipients to pass an asset test. Under the proposal, seniors and individuals on disability would lose their benefits if they have assets valued at $3,000 or more, excluding their primary residence and personal property. For everyone else, the cut-off would be $2,000.
I have about $3,000 in the bank, he said, noting that he was keeping the money for emergencies and large expenses. Twenty-five hundred dollars is earmarked for the new real estate tax plus I owe another $835 for the homeowners insurance. Unemployed since April, Manton lives on $195 a week in unemployment benefits. His last day on the job at a legal services company, a position he had for more than three years, was April 29. Hes been looking for work ever since.
He feels he needs to hang on to a little bit of money. What people have in the bank is all they have in the bank and $3,000 is not a lot of money, he said. If you go the hospital for some emergency, they want $385 for the ER plus the doctors fee, plus the tests, plus whatever else they do to you. So, youre talking $900 right there just to go to the hospital. Suppose your pipes burst? You have to have a little bit of money to fall back on. But, that little nest egg would bar him from getting food stamps if the new rules are approved.
The change could be put in place as early as March. The department has the authority needed to make the changes without approval from the state legislature. The U.S. Department of Agriculture, which oversees the food stamp program, does need to sign off on the plan, something Horstmann said she expected to happen."
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Part of the problem is that our Governor and legislature gave the Secretary of Public Welfare complete authority to make any changes he wants without any other state approval, as long as it saves money.
Excerpts:
"John Manton is struggling to hang on unemployed, without health insurance, worried about keeping his home. Hes now also concerned that proposed changes to eligibility requirements for food stamps will leave him worried about something else: putting food on the table. He receives about $37 a week in food stamps toward food bills that average about $51 a week. That assistance would vanish for Manton and about 170,000 other Pennsylvanians under a proposed change in rules that would require food stamp recipients to pass an asset test. Under the proposal, seniors and individuals on disability would lose their benefits if they have assets valued at $3,000 or more, excluding their primary residence and personal property. For everyone else, the cut-off would be $2,000.
I have about $3,000 in the bank, he said, noting that he was keeping the money for emergencies and large expenses. Twenty-five hundred dollars is earmarked for the new real estate tax plus I owe another $835 for the homeowners insurance. Unemployed since April, Manton lives on $195 a week in unemployment benefits. His last day on the job at a legal services company, a position he had for more than three years, was April 29. Hes been looking for work ever since.
He feels he needs to hang on to a little bit of money. What people have in the bank is all they have in the bank and $3,000 is not a lot of money, he said. If you go the hospital for some emergency, they want $385 for the ER plus the doctors fee, plus the tests, plus whatever else they do to you. So, youre talking $900 right there just to go to the hospital. Suppose your pipes burst? You have to have a little bit of money to fall back on. But, that little nest egg would bar him from getting food stamps if the new rules are approved.
The change could be put in place as early as March. The department has the authority needed to make the changes without approval from the state legislature. The U.S. Department of Agriculture, which oversees the food stamp program, does need to sign off on the plan, something Horstmann said she expected to happen."
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Part of the problem is that our Governor and legislature gave the Secretary of Public Welfare complete authority to make any changes he wants without any other state approval, as long as it saves money.
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Sounds like a great way of ensuring people have to depend on assistance forever
theAntiRand
Jan 2012
#3
Did we asset test the banksters before we bailed them out? I bet they had way more than $2,000.
fasttense
Jan 2012
#6
My brother became disabled with a broken shoulder and all he got was food stamps
Kolesar
Jan 2012
#12
Agree, horribly low. Most people here in the North East need that much in their account just to be
harun
Jan 2012
#38
I have experience in 3 states, and they ALWAYS count cash and cars..
Viva_La_Revolution
Jan 2012
#16
So you can own three+ houses and still get food stamps? While I agree that the asset limit should
jwirr
Jan 2012
#49
That is true. I was thinking that all of a sudden we drop the means tests for assets when the
jwirr
Jan 2012
#77
Assets could include furniture and other household goods. Should a person have to sell their
pnwmom
Jan 2012
#79
A dining room isn't a luxury in a little house with no eating space in the kitchen.
pnwmom
Jan 2012
#117
I don't know where the limits should be set, but I'm OK with this idea in principle.
maggiesfarmer
Jan 2012
#27
No it is not fraud. Nothing in the programs say that you have to work enough hours a week to get
jwirr
Jan 2012
#53
That is not fraud. When working with special ed clients who have jobs we always monitor their income
jwirr
Jan 2012
#89
I'm calling BS on this story of yours, it sounds exactly like a wingnut stereotype.
Odin2005
Jan 2012
#96
I think you made a wrong turn somewhere, you seem to have turned left, when you meant to turn right.
rubberducky
Jan 2012
#39
you're shaming me for being a democrat in favor of vetting food stamp applicants?
maggiesfarmer
Jan 2012
#40
Inflamitory? If there are no guidelines for these programs the banksters would be on them. I am
jwirr
Jan 2012
#58
the whole thread is over whether or not it's OK to have a vetting process for food stamp recipients.
maggiesfarmer
Jan 2012
#59
you're correct and reinforcing my point, Mary was getting funds elsewhere and this should've
maggiesfarmer
Jan 2012
#57
Right, it's the RETURN to an asset test which is bucking the national trend.
Gormy Cuss
Jan 2012
#46
Sadly I know a family with net worth in the millions that applied and got them.
Yo_Mama
Jan 2012
#84
I am pretty sure that my state has had this kind of asset test for many years. We cannot have
jwirr
Jan 2012
#47
Another fine job by Gov Tom "I take money from known pedophiles" Corbett the Fracker
LynneSin
Jan 2012
#54
Republicans would be just as happy if half the population starved to death!
MarkCharles
Jan 2012
#69
If you live in PA and don't have any food, you can always devour fracking chemicals.
blue neen
Jan 2012
#99
So Pennsylvania will let children go hungry if their parents have more than
coalition_unwilling
Jan 2012
#101
yes, & $2000 in assets - 1 shitty used car. if you have an unshitty used car you're sol, you have
HiPointDem
Jul 2012
#119