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R B Garr

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195. These false equivalencies are desperate. The letter talks

Fri Jan 4, 2019, 03:52 PM

Jan 2019

about a pervasive hostility in BERNIE’s campaign—the letter is current news— and we could see it for ourselves how hostile his reps like Jeff Weaver were/are. We can see it with our own eyes, so the letter just reinforces it.

Spamming Whatabout Hillary because she knew one guy...that is divisive.

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Sanders says he did not know about sexual harassment allegations during campaign [View all] brooklynite Jan 2019 OP

lol shanny Jan 2019 #1

i agree with your LOL. and that you didn't know Bernie ... REALLY ??? trueblue2007 Jan 2019 #22

What's lol is Elizabeth Warren is like Bernie's twin yet the resentment here onit2day Jan 2019 #26

Elizabeth is Not "BS' twin". Cha Jan 2019 #28

+2 Crutchez_CuiBono Jan 2019 #111

Elizabeth is also BlueMTexpat Jan 2019 #160

And, you can tell by her Vid that she's Not "BS' twin".. Cha Jan 2019 #163

Happy New Year to you, Cha! BlueMTexpat Jan 2019 #164

Interesting on how women are defined more by the men they agree with than their own ehrnst Jan 2019 #68

When was Elizabeth Warren's campign accused of having a predatory culture of sexual violence? LongtimeAZDem Jan 2019 #73

Warren's not Bernie's twin emulatorloo Jan 2019 #109

Yes, and she was the progressive most wanted to run in 2016. brush Jan 2019 #116

Sanders was well known among progressives from years on Thom Hartmann show onit2day Jan 2019 #118

Whatever. Most wanted Warren to run as she was the most visible progressive... brush Jan 2019 #120

Said she was "like" Bernie's twin. Progressive ideas are the same onit2day Jan 2019 #117

Ideas may be the same, however she has a detailed grasp on policy implementation emulatorloo Jan 2019 #140

Nah, you can tell by her Vid where President Obama Cha Jan 2019 #166

Quite! Cha Jan 2019 #165

She is a Democrat Demsrule86 Jan 2019 #141

Wha? George II Jan 2019 #147

"I was unaware my employees were behaving immorally and illegally" isn't much of a defense RockRaven Jan 2019 #2

Especially since the campaign said they addressed the issue and he said tonight.... George II Jan 2019 #3

And, saying he knows nothing about Cha Jan 2019 #10

To be fair unless he had the power to read minds it is more likely than not that he is being honest cstanleytech Jan 2019 #8

He's known for hands on managment of his campaigns ehrnst Jan 2019 #83

That's not proof he was negligent nor does it automatically render him unfit to be President. cstanleytech Jan 2019 #97

I didn't say either. ehrnst Jan 2019 #103

"I was a little bit busy ..." NanceGreggs Jan 2019 #4

That's why Jane said they couldn't release their tax returns, "we're a bit busy, you know." George II Jan 2019 #6

I was just thinking about that very Cha Jan 2019 #12

Post removed Post removed Jan 2019 #14

He has a rep of being the most trusted member in congress because he is so honest onit2day Jan 2019 #23

Nah.. Cha Jan 2019 #27

Maybe by Lindsey Graham, but he ain't the whole congress. fleabiscuit Jan 2019 #35

Precisely Sherman A1 Jan 2019 #47

"I hate watching people make allegations to justify their deep seated resentments." ehrnst Jan 2019 #87

Exactly, the key word being insinuated as it was taken out of context. The rest of onit2day Jan 2019 #122

It's clear that sentence was created as "context" in order to get that unfounded smear in. ehrnst Jan 2019 #123

Sanders Must be a Real Threat to Wall St. McKim Jan 2019 #99

How do you explain that it's his former staffers doing the "attacking?" Are they working ehrnst Jan 2019 #124

Feasting Explained McKim Jan 2019 #133

Who "on this site" is "eager to put down candidates?" ehrnst Jan 2019 #134

He has not announced and God willing he won't . We don't need this stuff. Demsrule86 Jan 2019 #142

No answer? ehrnst Jan 2019 #205

You should check his mandatory Senate Personal Financial Disclosure.... George II Jan 2019 #129

Now, what party is that? yardwork Jan 2019 #136

Where has that "rep" been documented, or is it anecdotal? George II Jan 2019 #138

Where did you hear that BS has the reputation of being the most trusted member in Congress? N/T lapucelle Jan 2019 #157

Where and when has Sanders said those things? ProgLibDem Jan 2019 #114

The only one that Nance attributed to him was said during his CNN interview last night. George II Jan 2019 #135

Completely disagree with you assessment as Bernie never acted like that onit2day Jan 2019 #121

I feel that way about HRC. ehrnst Jan 2019 #130

Just like you must not ignore these revelations on Hillary Clinton? Its just news after all LiberalLovinLug Jan 2019 #158

These false equivalencies are desperate. The letter talks R B Garr Jan 2019 #195

divisive? I would never start an OP using my post above. LiberalLovinLug Jan 2019 #196

It's not hypocrisy to talk about current news. Your umbrage R B Garr Jan 2019 #197

You use 'alternative facts' to back up your onslought. LiberalLovinLug Jan 2019 #198

Such massive diversions. Sanders couldn't beat Hillary, R B Garr Jan 2019 #199

Yawn LiberalLovinLug Jan 2019 #200

Post removed Post removed Jan 2019 #5

Can you fix that link please? Thanks. George II Jan 2019 #7

Sorry, the link is fixed now. CentralMass Jan 2019 #19

Yep... it definitely appears to be fixed. NurseJackie Jan 2019 #139

And.... cue the attacks on Hillary and Kamala Harris obamanut2012 Jan 2019 #52

I think many who posted similar problems on their campaigns are speaking of how common karynnj Jan 2019 #81

So what does his time as mayor have to do with the article? This was not his or Tad's 1st campaign. ehrnst Jan 2019 #92

The OP spoke of "managerial skills" karynnj Jan 2019 #96

Was HRC's explanation "I didn't know anything about it?" ehrnst Jan 2019 #98

Is it better to know and keep him on the campaign? karynnj Jan 2019 #102

Are there 2008 HRC campaign alum that felt a need to meet with her campaign staff ehrnst Jan 2019 #106

The letter is not about an individual or isolated cases. lapucelle Jan 2019 #170

Well said karynnj Power 2 the People Jan 2019 #113

"predatory culture"... lapucelle Jan 2019 #168

Your "everybody does it" defense is laughable considering R B Garr Jan 2019 #167

Or not knowing when a top aide has settled a sexual harassment claim for $400k with taxpayer dollars BeyondGeography Jan 2019 #31

Whataboutism mcar Jan 2019 #70

Hypocrisy BeyondGeography Jan 2019 #72

Whataboutism is a variant of the tu quoque logical fallacy that attempts to ehrnst Jan 2019 #85

Nobody is defending harassment anywhere BeyondGeography Jan 2019 #89

So you can't state where anyone here has been hippocritical. ehrnst Jan 2019 #91

I'm sure the anti-Sanders crowd will hold their preferred candidates to the same standards BeyondGeography Jan 2019 #93

But you can't show that happening anywhere here. ehrnst Jan 2019 #94

The corollary being just as valid LanternWaste Jan 2019 #112

... ehrnst Jan 2019 #131

Did she or Bill then invite him to a conference their Institute was having? ehrnst Jan 2019 #132

Not accurate. Her successor handled this... Demsrule86 Jan 2019 #143

The CA DOJ had paperwork on this complaint in Oct. 2016 BeyondGeography Jan 2019 #148

Hillary dealt with it. Corporate media is not our allies. Dodge the brain worms from them. nt fleabiscuit Jan 2019 #37

Thank you. That was better than being shielded from knowledge of it for plausible deniability ehrnst Jan 2019 #63

Amen!!!!! McKim Jan 2019 #104

You don't consider harassment to be an issue? Since when are his own 2016 staff "trolls" ehrnst Jan 2019 #127

#WhatAbout Bernie and his Bro's ? stonecutter357 Jan 2019 #55

OMG, we didn't just go there? watoos Jan 2019 #74

lol i have Bernie Bros ! in my own fam�i�ly ! stonecutter357 Jan 2019 #108

I can't stand Tulsi Gabbard and neither can most Democrats. yardwork Jan 2019 #137

They sure lost their accents, then... (nt) ehrnst Jan 2019 #184

How so? ehrnst Jan 2019 #62

Post removed Post removed Jan 2019 #9

#WhatAboutism! Any comment on BS Not Cha Jan 2019 #13

Whataboutism? HA! SixString Jan 2019 #18

One person does not constitute a "culture of sexual violence and harassment". George II Jan 2019 #16

this thread IS NOT ABOUT HILLARY. Shame on you trueblue2007 Jan 2019 #24

They are attacking Kamala Harris upthread obamanut2012 Jan 2019 #53

THAT'S HIS ANSWER??? Maven Jan 2019 #11

Yeah, he thinks it works for him. Cha Jan 2019 #20

He has the best excuses in the whole darn world. 4now Jan 2019 #15

Bazinga! George II Jan 2019 #17

lol.. the whole Universe! Cha Jan 2019 #21

He doesn't offer excuses. He gives explanations. Know the difference? onit2day Jan 2019 #25

This isn't an explanation. He hasn't told us how it was possible he was in the dark; pnwmom Jan 2019 #30

He also offers up the best explanations in the whole darn world 4now Jan 2019 #33

lol Cha Jan 2019 #34

When one says one "doesn't know" about something that one could reasonably be expected ehrnst Jan 2019 #86

Where was the bottleneck? How is it possible that with such a "pervasive" problem, pnwmom Jan 2019 #29

Well let's just Al Franken him and be done with it. bluedigger Jan 2019 #32

Sanders on Al Franken.. Cha Jan 2019 #36

Why do I find his statement ironic? nt fleabiscuit Jan 2019 #38

Because it is. Cha Jan 2019 #39

Yes, yes it is. fleabiscuit Jan 2019 #40

Happy Blue Year! Cha Jan 2019 #42

Tsk, tsk, tsk! Nothing about a fair hearing or investigation. Not good. brush Jan 2019 #43

Indeed. (nt) ehrnst Jan 2019 #88

Precisely Sherman A1 Jan 2019 #48

Hillary's record of handling sexual harrassment gyroscope Jan 2019 #41

She dealt with it. nt fleabiscuit Jan 2019 #44

#WhatABoutism! But, at least Hillary knew Cha Jan 2019 #45

dealt with it... by leaving him on the campaign because she felt that she needed him irresistable Jan 2019 #107

She sent him to rehab after stopping the harassment...and fired him ultimately. Demsrule86 Jan 2019 #144

By has 2 year terms for governor karynnj Jan 2019 #171

Why would you assume that? A Republican has been elected twice now. Demsrule86 Jan 2019 #188

I live in Vermont karynnj Jan 2019 #189

Yet, the GOP governor won in 18...sorry we can't count on that. Demsrule86 Jan 2019 #190

It is also possible that because - like MA - they have a veto proof karynnj Jan 2019 #201

Yeah, she dealt with it. Cha Jan 2019 #151

#WhatAbout Bernie ? stonecutter357 Jan 2019 #56

She actually dealt directly with it. Pence and others hide behind "plausible deniability." ehrnst Jan 2019 #64

Whataboutism mcar Jan 2019 #71

When all else fails.... ehrnst Jan 2019 #101

That's a "record"? That's one incident between one offender and a victim, and the victim... George II Jan 2019 #149

It looks like a possible run for nomination is being tamped down GreydeeThos Jan 2019 #46

1% are scared to death RandiFan1290 Jan 2019 #49

Am I to understand that "the 1%" tree scared of Sanders especially? brooklynite Jan 2019 #69

Talk to BS' campaign staffers about that.. Cha Jan 2019 #51

This was 'brought to light' two years after it occurred. GreydeeThos Jan 2019 #150

Yes.. Finally Brought to Light! Cha Jan 2019 #153

Three words. sheshe2 Jan 2019 #154

It was first brought to light in March 2017. lapucelle Jan 2019 #172

lolz obamanut2012 Jan 2019 #54

You are the one talking about lying GreydeeThos Jan 2019 #152

Allegations surfaced, and the LA Times started reporting the story in late March 2017. lapucelle Jan 2019 #175

"The professional left?" Who is that? Bernie's 2016 staffers? ehrnst Jan 2019 #183

Who are The powers that be ? stonecutter357 Jan 2019 #57

Post removed Post removed Jan 2019 #155

The powers that be MADE his former campaign staff come forward with a complaint? brooklynite Jan 2019 #59

I don't think they were "MADE" to come forward GreydeeThos Jan 2019 #156

The letter was written last week. brooklynite Jan 2019 #169

The LA Times reported allegations in April 2017. lapucelle Jan 2019 #173

By whom? And how did they get his 2016 staffers to go along, if they weren't going to otherwise? ehrnst Jan 2019 #180

Are you saying that his own former staffers are trying to tamp down his candidacy? ehrnst Jan 2019 #90

I think the staffers are being organized and directed by a professional political operative GreydeeThos Jan 2019 #161

So what are you implying about his 2016 staffers? Or the campaign that hire them in the first place? ehrnst Jan 2019 #179

Where's your proof to make such Cha Jan 2019 #192

No answer? ehrnst Jan 2019 #193

You "think"? George II Jan 2019 #194

Do you mean that silly conspiracy theory that Teh Establishment Democrats are "orchestrating" it? betsuni Jan 2019 #203

lol ! stonecutter357 Jan 2019 #204

I have seen no polls that indicate Sanders is a favored candidate...the ones I see Demsrule86 Jan 2019 #145

Only idiots support a candidate based on popularity polls GreydeeThos Jan 2019 #159

You still haven't stated who "the powers that be" are. ehrnst Jan 2019 #181

"I was unaware my employees were behaving immorally and illegally" -- really? obamanut2012 Jan 2019 #50

This message was self-deleted by its author aeromanKC Jan 2019 #58

So, the monkey wrenching begins again...and folks fall right into line with the FailureToCommunicate Jan 2019 #60

Exactly. It's even from The Hill. I keep wondering ms liberty Jan 2019 #66

...and in Time, CNN, the New York Times, the Washington Post, NBC..... brooklynite Jan 2019 #82

Yea they are, as they should be if there is a legitimate news story ms liberty Jan 2019 #128

The New York Times, CNN, Newsweek, The LA Times, Time magazine, & WaPo lapucelle Jan 2019 #174

I refer you to my post #128 ms liberty Jan 2019 #177

I refer you to CNN, NYT, WaPo, Newsweek, the LA Times, and Time. lapucelle Jan 2019 #178

Why would Sanders 2016 staffers "play" the public? This makes no sense. (nt) ehrnst Jan 2019 #182

I did not say they were. ms liberty Jan 2019 #185

So they are "being played?" And baited by whom? ehrnst Jan 2019 #186

Are you saying Bernie's former staffers are working for the GOP and Putin? ehrnst Jan 2019 #100

No answer? ehrnst Jan 2019 #126

Sanders says he did not know ? Bullshit ! stonecutter357 Jan 2019 #61

Sanders wouldn't endorse Carmona when Carmona ran for office himself in 2016. ehrnst Jan 2019 #65

And, so say these women.. Cha Jan 2019 #202

"He has always been a hands-on campaigner. He has had the people who have had the title of campaign ehrnst Jan 2019 #67

Fox News can pick up some talking points from this thread. watoos Jan 2019 #75

"I believe that 'management' is one of the skills we're looking for in a President" NurseJackie Jan 2019 #76

+1000 (nt) ehrnst Jan 2019 #79

So far, the stock responses seem to be: LongtimeAZDem Jan 2019 #77

He was too busy. Cha Jan 2019 #78

Bravo... Way to stand up and own it, big guy. Blue_Tires Jan 2019 #80

I guess economic disparity is OK as long as it's in the service of a noble campaign. ehrnst Jan 2019 #95

He and his whole campaign hates woman...... getagrip_already Jan 2019 #84

Sexual harassment of women is a human problem vlyons Jan 2019 #105

But it's not inevitable. HRC managed to learn from the 2008 campaign ehrnst Jan 2019 #125

From what we know there was one person involved from her two campaigns combined, not... George II Jan 2019 #146

Oh, No!!! DarthDem Jan 2019 #110

Sanders supporters banned from Tinder after campaigning on dating app TomCADem Jan 2019 #115

Is "I didn't know ... FrankBooth Jan 2019 #119

i kinda sorta remember pictures/videos of some of the followers/surragates... samnsara Jan 2019 #162

Nothing Smug About that Reply dlk Jan 2019 #176

Sexism Claims From Bernie Sanders's 2016 Run: Paid Less, Treated Worse Gothmog Jan 2019 #187

honestly - sounds about right, and like something 90% of white males I know would say. electron_blue Jan 2019 #191