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azurnoir

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3. well I've seen it justified like this

Mon Sep 10, 2012, 02:34 PM

Sep 2012

Iran signed the NPT and Israel did not so Israel gets to have nukes and Iran doesn't , now mind you this usually comes from the same corner that will also tell you that while Iran's people are not suicidal Iran's leaders just can't wait to get to their 72 virgins or what ever so the only reason Iran is developing a nuclear bomb ( there is NO other reason for Iran developing nuclear energy)is to annihilate Israel never mind the consequences (see 72 virgins) so we'd Israel and the US or just Israel had better get them first

I for one do not agree with this line of 'reasoning' but there it is

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Hiroshima survivors in Israel, hold nuke protest [View all] Judi Lynn Sep 2012 OP

How anyone can take calls for Iran to cease its nuclear program... harmonicon Sep 2012 #1

well I've seen it justified like this azurnoir Sep 2012 #3

Iran Doesn't Need Nukes..... liberallibral Sep 2012 #4

always better them than us huh? azurnoir Sep 2012 #5

As DEMOCRAT Harry Truman would tell you (along with our US TROOPS).... liberallibral Sep 2012 #11

Holocaust survivors are different from those who survived Hiroshima in your book? azurnoir Sep 2012 #13

erm nothing to do with race or ethnic background but the holocaust was against people who didnt atta loli phabay Sep 2012 #14

BINGO!!! liberallibral Sep 2012 #25

ummm hmmm ? azurnoir Sep 2012 #27

Timing rl6214 Sep 2012 #46

you mean the first recorded test which was about 2 months azurnoir Sep 2012 #49

no idea what your logic is here, they hadnt tested the bomb but they should ahve used it earlier on loli phabay Sep 2012 #68

Interesting you would make such an accusation that I hate the Germans azurnoir Sep 2012 #71

reread it was tongue in cheek as you keep saying we should have nuked berlin loli phabay Sep 2012 #72

you mean like Berlin? why did we nuke Hiroshima which BTW was an open city much like Dresden azurnoir Sep 2012 #26

probuably cause berlin was about to fall and the proximity of allied troops loli phabay Sep 2012 #36

no however Japan would have fallen regardless azurnoir Sep 2012 #40

mayby mayby not, they could still have carried out kamikaze attacks on shipping etc loli phabay Sep 2012 #41

The first atom bomb was tested on July 16, 1945 rl6214 Sep 2012 #48

yes I know but mean we are to believe there was absolutely no bomb prior to that? azurnoir Sep 2012 #50

but there was also millions of allied soldiers on the outskirts of berlin, and the majority of germa loli phabay Sep 2012 #53

and what was the point of nukeing s a country that was completely geographically isolated ? azurnoir Sep 2012 #56

yup the thought of a million of your own casualties when you had to hit the beaches. loli phabay Sep 2012 #58

however as I already stated invasion was not necessary to defeat Japan azurnoir Sep 2012 #61

A siege would not have worked rl6214 Sep 2012 #64

yup they had been husbanding their aircraft to use as kamikazes for the beaches or blockade loli phabay Sep 2012 #66

The Kamikazes were winding down by June of 1945 Japan was running low on planes and munitions azurnoir Sep 2012 #75

i disagree, though i hate wiki a good read is Operation Ketsugo according to the info there japan st loli phabay Sep 2012 #78

Russia never communicated those overtures Confusious Sep 2012 #65

well if as you state Japan had been stockpiling equipment then wouldn't that be a target? azurnoir Sep 2012 #73

you need to go do some reading, at the surrender japan still had thousands of aircraft loli phabay Sep 2012 #74

I have been doing some reading azurnoir Sep 2012 #77

you do know a million people with sharp sticks could still do a lot of damage loli phabay Sep 2012 #79

I said they did didn't I? Confusious Sep 2012 #76

Was the US bombing of Japan after they had surrendered necessary? cpwm17 Sep 2012 #8

Riiiiiiiight.... liberallibral Sep 2012 #10

Give me a link to your claim that Iran threatened to "wipe Israel off the map" cpwm17 Sep 2012 #31

japanese surrendered on August 15th, hiroshima August 6th, nagasaki August 9th loli phabay Sep 2012 #15

Yes sure they aren't war-mongering Missycim Sep 2012 #20

Hezbollah was formed to end Israel's occupation of southern Lebanon cpwm17 Sep 2012 #32

what?? Confusious Sep 2012 #67

I don't know you at all, and I don't want this to seem like a personal attack, BUT... harmonicon Sep 2012 #12

Iran's Khamenei Calls for 'Nuclear Free Middle East' polly7 Sep 2012 #18

Thank you for this. Very interesting. n/t Judi Lynn Sep 2012 #19

So while they are making a bomb Missycim Sep 2012 #21

Yes, I do believe it, and no ...... I don't believe they are making a bomb. polly7 Sep 2012 #24

Then if their nuclear program is so peaceful Missycim Sep 2012 #29

You answer this, since you think the IAEA's monitoring of Iran's nuclear program has been polly7 Sep 2012 #30

Well I hope to god you are right Missycim Sep 2012 #33

Brown people aren't suppose to have nukes. JRLeft Sep 2012 #2

Pakistan and India have them Missycim Sep 2012 #22

First off Iran and Israel are not neighbors azurnoir Sep 2012 #28

well they are neighbours in the sense of there being proxies next door loli phabay Sep 2012 #37

Have you ever heard of the MAD doctrine? azurnoir Sep 2012 #38

and yet it seems that Israel has managed to not nuke Iran, funny that loli phabay Sep 2012 #39

and no has said they will my point was that at this point in time azurnoir Sep 2012 #42

I tqke the guys at their word when they talk of destroying Israel it seems we had another madman loli phabay Sep 2012 #43

so you are comparing Nazi Germany to Iran ? azurnoir Sep 2012 #44

i think you need to reread what i wrote, but at least you understood who i was talking about loli phabay Sep 2012 #47

Really you failed to answer my question why in your opinion would MAD not work where Iran is concern azurnoir Sep 2012 #51

I would say both sets of leaders talk of wiping out a certain groups of people loli phabay Sep 2012 #52

you did not answer as to why MAD would not work where Iran is concerned azurnoir Sep 2012 #54

I also heard theres no gay people in Iran either straight from the leaders mouths loli phabay Sep 2012 #57

you still did not answer why the you seem to believe the MAD doctrine azurnoir Sep 2012 #59

i think ive answered it a few times, again i trust them when they say they will wipe out Israel loli phabay Sep 2012 #60

The MAD doctrine is why however you seem to beleive Iran to be suicidal why? n/t azurnoir Sep 2012 #62

once again i take the guy at his word, same as we should have done 70 years ago loli phabay Sep 2012 #63

More like radical theocracies shouldn't have nukes 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #34

yup i dont get people not believing these guys when they say they will destroy israel loli phabay Sep 2012 #55

I look forward to their protests in Tehran and DC. Behind the Aegis Sep 2012 #6

i think the Tehran protest will be the most interesting, loli phabay Sep 2012 #17

Don't be silly. If they protested in Tehran they'd face violence and repression 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #35

Good for them..but Boston Herald reporting is inaccurate. sdfernando Sep 2012 #7

yup it was three weeks or so later they surrendered. loli phabay Sep 2012 #16

Formal surrender ( 3 weeks later ) Confusious Sep 2012 #69

yup i got my dates mixed up, thanks loli phabay Sep 2012 #70

NO nukes in the ME is better than some having nukes Cynicus Emeritus Sep 2012 #9

So whats going to stop the hordes of tanks and soilders Missycim Sep 2012 #23

Shouldn't they be protesting in Tehran? rl6214 Sep 2012 #45