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20. Exactly - When I Advocate For 'Medicare For All' I'm Not Considering That It Is Free Healthcare.....
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 10:40 AM
Jan 2019

I'm on Medicare right now. I have a monthly payment that I have to make to maintain it. I also have to carry a supplemental plan to pick up the other 20% that Medicare doesn't cover. I also have a Drug Plan which I have a premium to pay for my prescription medications. Total I pay around $480/month.

My Medicare premium is $134/month or $1608/year for basic medical care. Very affordable. If I didn't pick up the Supplemental and Drug Plan (which are optional) $1608 would be my total premium for the year for basic healthcare.

Before I turned 65y/o - I was paying $3200/month for a Blue Cross/Blue Shield plan in which I had a $5000 deductible. I was self-employed and that only covered myself.

So though 'Medicare for All' is not free - it's a bargain over other health care insurance that those under 65 have to pay.

So it is a misnomer to say that 'Medicare for All' is free healthcare. It isn't. It is more economical though. It is also more affordable than the Obamacare plans. What makes it work - is the big pool of users - in that all Americans would be in the plan.

Medicare for All would be structured the same way as Medicare is structured for those that qualify for Medicare - like me.

There would still be a need for the current health insurance companies to offer the optional supplemental plans - but the basic healthcare needs would be satisfied by this plan.

It always upsets me when people say that the Dems want to provide 'free healthcare for all'. It's not free and those that think it is - just don't understand how it is structured and the politicians that say it 'the Dems want to provide free healthcare use that to steer people away from supporting 'Medicare For All'.

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Junior High dare n/t Apollyonus Jan 2019 #1
The best defense against him: Organize a boycott of Starbucks. olegramps Jan 2019 #21
Tomorrow's tweet: "Hey, Schultz, what are you, chicken? Buk buk buk!" Clash City Rocker Jan 2019 #27
This Is Trump Daring Schultz To Run.... global1 Jan 2019 #2
He's NOT a Democrat, he's more like a Libertarian Farmer-Rick Jan 2019 #11
Some Democrats oppose provision of health care to all at no cost to patient. David__77 Jan 2019 #12
Perhaps Farmer-Rick Jan 2019 #15
Yes-it would be tremendously expensive. David__77 Jan 2019 #17
Good point Farmer-Rick Jan 2019 #18
Exactly - When I Advocate For 'Medicare For All' I'm Not Considering That It Is Free Healthcare..... global1 Jan 2019 #20
Yup. They should emphasize instead "Cheaper + covers every citizen from cradle to grave" LiberalLovinLug Jan 2019 #30
And when Medicare is the only payer, they control the costs TexasBushwhacker Jan 2019 #35
I don't think he's a libertarian. Libertarians don't want govt at all. Honeycombe8 Jan 2019 #32
Deficits are a bogeyman the RepubliCONS use to keep social programs perpetually underfunded Farmer-Rick Jan 2019 #36
IMO, the deficit IS a huge problem. Honeycombe8 Jan 2019 #37
I agree with 90 percent of what you wrote. Farmer-Rick Jan 2019 #38
Yes, it's a symptom. Honeycombe8 Jan 2019 #39
Yes, it's not a perfect analogy Farmer-Rick Jan 2019 #40
Thanks! :) nt Honeycombe8 Jan 2019 #41
Exactly Owl Jan 2019 #19
Translation: please, please, please run for President, or I'll lose in a landslide. irresistable Jan 2019 #3
Democrats need to start boycotting Starbucks immediately. Lonestarblue Jan 2019 #4
WELL SAID! CurtEastPoint Jan 2019 #7
He is no longer with the company. BumRushDaShow Jan 2019 #9
He owns 32 million shares of the company marlakay Jan 2019 #22
He still doesn't hold a "managing" position BumRushDaShow Jan 2019 #34
Good point Farmer-Rick Jan 2019 #13
I don't go to Starbucks. notdarkyet Jan 2019 #16
Who asked you, Trumpnuts. C_U_L8R Jan 2019 #5
LOL - Best endorsement that Schultz has gotten! Pachamama Jan 2019 #6
Toddler trump tries to bait Schultz into running. lark Jan 2019 #8
Please explain FreeWheatForever Jan 2019 #10
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Sounds like Trump is trying to goad him into doing it probably with the hopes of weakening cstanleytech Jan 2019 #28
Schultz should immediately vacate any stores in Trump owned buildings. /nt IcyPeas Jan 2019 #29
Oh, Trump REALLY wants him to run! What amazing psychology! Nitram Jan 2019 #31
That is so fucking stupid redstateblues Jan 2019 #33
he double-dog dares you to run! 0rganism Jan 2019 #42
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