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TexasBushwhacker

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35. And when Medicare is the only payer, they control the costs
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 11:08 PM
Jan 2019

There will be some variation according to location, because it costs more to run a hospital in Manhattan than it does in a small town in Arkansas. But with our private insurance based system, which has done a TERRIBLE job at controling costs, a knee replacement can cost anywhere from $12K to $80K, and that's just nuts. That means a 20% copay can be $2400 to $16K!

Private insurers don't really try to keep costs down because they just pass them on to consumers in the form of higher premiums. Medicare will pay enough for doctors to make a good living and hospitals to stay in business, but that's it. Price controls will be put into place on drugs too, like every other developed country on the planet.

Since everyone will have insurance, things like cancer can be caught earlier when it's easier and cheaper to treat and chronic conditions like diabetes and high blood pressure can be managed before they cause costly complications like heart disease and stroke. Ultimately, it's cheaper to have everyone covered, not to mention more humane.

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Junior High dare n/t Apollyonus Jan 2019 #1
The best defense against him: Organize a boycott of Starbucks. olegramps Jan 2019 #21
Tomorrow's tweet: "Hey, Schultz, what are you, chicken? Buk buk buk!" Clash City Rocker Jan 2019 #27
This Is Trump Daring Schultz To Run.... global1 Jan 2019 #2
He's NOT a Democrat, he's more like a Libertarian Farmer-Rick Jan 2019 #11
Some Democrats oppose provision of health care to all at no cost to patient. David__77 Jan 2019 #12
Perhaps Farmer-Rick Jan 2019 #15
Yes-it would be tremendously expensive. David__77 Jan 2019 #17
Good point Farmer-Rick Jan 2019 #18
Exactly - When I Advocate For 'Medicare For All' I'm Not Considering That It Is Free Healthcare..... global1 Jan 2019 #20
Yup. They should emphasize instead "Cheaper + covers every citizen from cradle to grave" LiberalLovinLug Jan 2019 #30
And when Medicare is the only payer, they control the costs TexasBushwhacker Jan 2019 #35
I don't think he's a libertarian. Libertarians don't want govt at all. Honeycombe8 Jan 2019 #32
Deficits are a bogeyman the RepubliCONS use to keep social programs perpetually underfunded Farmer-Rick Jan 2019 #36
IMO, the deficit IS a huge problem. Honeycombe8 Jan 2019 #37
I agree with 90 percent of what you wrote. Farmer-Rick Jan 2019 #38
Yes, it's a symptom. Honeycombe8 Jan 2019 #39
Yes, it's not a perfect analogy Farmer-Rick Jan 2019 #40
Thanks! :) nt Honeycombe8 Jan 2019 #41
Exactly Owl Jan 2019 #19
Translation: please, please, please run for President, or I'll lose in a landslide. irresistable Jan 2019 #3
Democrats need to start boycotting Starbucks immediately. Lonestarblue Jan 2019 #4
WELL SAID! CurtEastPoint Jan 2019 #7
He is no longer with the company. BumRushDaShow Jan 2019 #9
He owns 32 million shares of the company marlakay Jan 2019 #22
He still doesn't hold a "managing" position BumRushDaShow Jan 2019 #34
Good point Farmer-Rick Jan 2019 #13
I don't go to Starbucks. notdarkyet Jan 2019 #16
Who asked you, Trumpnuts. C_U_L8R Jan 2019 #5
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Toddler trump tries to bait Schultz into running. lark Jan 2019 #8
Please explain FreeWheatForever Jan 2019 #10
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Sounds like Trump is trying to goad him into doing it probably with the hopes of weakening cstanleytech Jan 2019 #28
Schultz should immediately vacate any stores in Trump owned buildings. /nt IcyPeas Jan 2019 #29
Oh, Trump REALLY wants him to run! What amazing psychology! Nitram Jan 2019 #31
That is so fucking stupid redstateblues Jan 2019 #33
he double-dog dares you to run! 0rganism Jan 2019 #42
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