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tonedevil

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28. Apparently...

Tue Jan 29, 2019, 03:13 PM

Jan 2019

his constituency didn't think so. I am speaking only of the primary election result not that from 3000 miles away I know what people are saying. It appears that the now former Congressman did the things that many are counseling Rep. Ocasio-Cortez to do. Worked hard to develop a reputation with his fellow representatives and had achieved a bit of power. His name had even been mentioned as a possible successor to Speaker Pelosi. When it came time for reelection he was able to raise three million dollars with very little effort. Maybe the voters didn't feel he was around enough to understand their issues. Maybe if he could have bothered to show up for the two debates he took a pass on he could have explained what he was doing and retained his seat.
TLDR: Joe Crowley forgot to do the part of the job where you convince the voters to vote for you. That is a significant and in this case a catastrophic error.

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Some Dems float idea of primary challenge for Ocasio-Cortez [View all] brooklynite Jan 2019 OP

Sigh.. Fuzzpope Jan 2019 #1

That however may be the question... brooklynite Jan 2019 #3

I guess my comment has a universal application. Fuzzpope Jan 2019 #4

She has affiliated herself with those murielm99 Jan 2019 #10

I don't trust anyone associated with Cenk Uygur's "Justice Democrats"... NurseJackie Jan 2019 #11

Cenk Uygur Apollyonus Jan 2019 #18

Cenk is a GOP-funded political arsonist. Like a cult leader who wants to burn down... NurseJackie Jan 2019 #55

I agree completely. I think she may face a primary. Demsrule86 Jan 2019 #64

It is completely within the realm of possibility. /nt tonedevil Jan 2019 #71

So you advocate primarying and/or do not support Celerity Jan 2019 #84

Doesn't matter. NurseJackie Jan 2019 #107

And AOC's campaign paid Justice Democrats $33,630.66, so she's very much affiliated with them. (nt) ehrnst Jan 2019 #114

That's a lot. NurseJackie Jan 2019 #115

They took their board members off their site, but a few months ago Justice Democrats... George II Jan 2019 #116

What's the purpose of the board? How are they selected? NurseJackie Jan 2019 #118

you never answered the main question, you only deflected Celerity Jan 2019 #121

Rest assured, I'm smarter than I'm being given credit for here. NurseJackie Jan 2019 #122

Ah melman Jan 2019 #123

Ah... NurseJackie Jan 2019 #125

hahahahahahahahahaha n/t Apollyonus Jan 2019 #202

+1 Celerity Jan 2019 #132

you have not been clear at all, you never answered the question, not even close Celerity Jan 2019 #131

Not my problem. NurseJackie Jan 2019 #151

You never answered my question about the relevance of people on that list... ehrnst Jan 2019 #157

So if you have an opinion about AOC, it goes you must also have it about that particluar list? ehrnst Jan 2019 #113

it was very clear in my original post to the other poster Celerity Jan 2019 #166

You seem to think that all candidates that were endorsed by Justice Democrats must be ehrnst Jan 2019 #168

all the Reps I listed absolutely stand for the same policy positions and legislative agenda overall Celerity Jan 2019 #170

Perhaps you weren't aware AOC was half their board at one time? ehrnst Jan 2019 #172

thanks for your concern Celerity Jan 2019 #173

You seem to have this idea that I want that. ehrnst Jan 2019 #177

Here's a summary of the success of their endorsed House candidates: George II Jan 2019 #200

Ha! NurseJackie Jan 2019 #199

wow ... you put a LOT of work into this Apollyonus Jan 2019 #203

They endorsed 78 candidates last year, only those seven won in November. And of those seven... George II Jan 2019 #129

Not much of a threat for Justice Democrats to say they will primary a Dem... ehrnst Jan 2019 #158

I hope he runs again. NurseJackie Jan 2019 #161

Well Apollyonus Jan 2019 #204

I also do not trust Cenk or the Just Us Democrats Gothmog Jan 2019 #117

... Apollyonus Jan 2019 #205

And they have targeted very progressive Democrats like Kathleen Rice. MrsCoffee Jan 2019 #27

You mean the 'progressive' Rice who helped lead the anti-Pelosi charge of the light brigade along Celerity Jan 2019 #91

Yes, their first "target" is Henry Cuellar, who just won re-election with 84.4% of the vote.... George II Jan 2019 #63

Henry Cuellar has the highest Trump Score of any House Democrat. Higher than a couple Celerity Jan 2019 #88

Do you realize that he was recently elected... George II Jan 2019 #89

84.4% means it is a safe Democratic seat, I support a primary challenge to him. Celerity Jan 2019 #90

Go to that first link and choose 116th Congress. The results are shocking. George II Jan 2019 #192

Indeed! + 1 MrsCoffee Jan 2019 #196

Reminder: go to that first link and choose 116th Congress. The results are shocking. George II Feb 2019 #207

Trump was betting that Henry Cuellar (D-TX) would be a "bipartisan" champion for his wall. OOOOOPS! Cha Jan 2019 #190

If every Democrat declined all national attention to only stay in their own districts LiberalLovinLug Jan 2019 #21

She was not even sworn in yet Apollyonus Jan 2019 #52

OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG LiberalLovinLug Jan 2019 #59

I love your emoji. Where did you get it! jrthin Jan 2019 #85

Just image googled "running hair on fire emoji" LiberalLovinLug Jan 2019 #154

Thank you. jrthin Jan 2019 #180

how dare she juxtaposed Jan 2019 #66

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 sarcasmo Jan 2019 #182

It's a documented fact (from FEC filings) that only 1% of her donations came from the 14th District. George II Jan 2019 #24

Yikes. Fuzzpope Jan 2019 #49

would love to see a link on that claim, the FEC documents I see tell a different story via Celerity Jan 2019 #92

Bazinga! melman Jan 2019 #95

You can go through the FEC reports and details of the contributions here: George II Jan 2019 #111

Bazinga! NurseJackie Jan 2019 #112

lol melman Jan 2019 #124

I know, right? NurseJackie Jan 2019 #126

Your 1% claim is pure fiction Celerity Jan 2019 #130

It's not pure fiction. The actual financial filing has the zip codes of all the contributors... George II Jan 2019 #133

It IS fiction Celerity Jan 2019 #135

Please look at the actual reports themselves, not a summary or write-up. Thanks. George II Jan 2019 #140

This message was self-deleted by its author George II Jan 2019 #198

What percentage of voters actually came out to vote for her? NurseJackie Jan 2019 #12

About 6% in the 2018 primary. George II Jan 2019 #23

Not a very strong showing. Not many were motivated to come out... NurseJackie Jan 2019 #42

Maybe Democrat Joe Crowley will enter the primary next year? George II Jan 2019 #47

You are not showing the whole story Celerity Jan 2019 #99

Ignoring the blank votes, it was: George II Jan 2019 #109

Indeed. (nt) ehrnst Jan 2019 #139

Lol, you can't ignore the blank votes, just like you cannot ignore Celerity Jan 2019 #142

I misspoke, I should have said ignore the blank ballots. Blank ballots are not votes. George II Jan 2019 #143

no, they were ballot that left Crowley's (and the other candidates for NY-14) name blank Celerity Jan 2019 #144

Yes, they're what are known "undervotes", are you familiar with the term? George II Jan 2019 #146

of course I know the term, and my point stands Celerity Jan 2019 #149

Even after all that stumping around the country, the voters in her district ehrnst Jan 2019 #141

non sequitur Celerity Jan 2019 #148

This message was self-deleted by its author ehrnst Jan 2019 #152

Good to see that she's tweeting about her district! ehrnst Jan 2019 #153

That was a old tweet from January 22, from the OP that kicked off Celerity Jan 2019 #164

You mean like AOC supporting Justice Dems targeting Dem incumbents? ehrnst Jan 2019 #165

I just answered that, try to keep up Celerity Jan 2019 #167

Are you saying "endorsed by" is the same as "associated with?" ehrnst Jan 2019 #169

silly semantic games, they were all very involved with JD, not just 'claimed' by JD Celerity Jan 2019 #171

Backpedaling, I see. ehrnst Jan 2019 #175

Not backpedalling, getting off the bike, I am bored Celerity Jan 2019 #178

Post removed Post removed Jan 2019 #181

Why do you keep referring to it as "faux drama"? Do you live in or around the 14th district? George II Jan 2019 #197

More than her rivals in both the primary and general. /nt tonedevil Jan 2019 #31

Many voters in NY didn't realize there were two separate primaries in NY - one (in June) for... George II Jan 2019 #45

That explains the low turnout. Apollyonus Jan 2019 #54

I grew up in Queens in what is now the neighboring district (not sure what it was 30-40 years ago).. George II Jan 2019 #58

Wait, what? She voted to keep the shutdown going? brush Jan 2019 #69

See post #61 for details. George II Jan 2019 #72

You're saying Crowley wasn't doing his job? LisaM Jan 2019 #15

Wasn't Joe Crowley doing his job? George II Jan 2019 #22

Apparently... tonedevil Jan 2019 #28

Only 11-1/2% of the registered Democrats showed up for the confusing June primary.... George II Jan 2019 #32

Who says it is wrong to primary... tonedevil Jan 2019 #34

Many of those responding to this OP are either saying it or implying it. George II Jan 2019 #36

You are inferring it nothing more. /nt tonedevil Jan 2019 #37

Read through the comments. George II Jan 2019 #38

I have... tonedevil Jan 2019 #39

:) Makes sense if true. She signed up to primary Crowley, after all, Hortensis Jan 2019 #104

Nobody melman Jan 2019 #56

No one has said that. nt. Mariana Jan 2019 #179

Apparently Henry Cuellar is doing the job he was elected to do by the voters, and demonstrated.... George II Jan 2019 #40

Yeah, I don't think she has a problem. 3Hotdogs Jan 2019 #48

Usually when we resist having a primary treestar Jan 2019 #68

Gop shenanigans in the dem party Fullduplexxx Jan 2019 #2

To which, AOC replied (conveniently missing from the Hill report) TheBlackAdder Jan 2019 #67

Love it! Celerity Jan 2019 #102

"The Hill" clickbait bullshit. 11cents Jan 2019 #5

Well said, watoos Jan 2019 #7

I hope that's all it is.... we desperately need to concentrate on repubs right now groundloop Jan 2019 #8

Thank you. emulatorloo Jan 2019 #20

Arrow, meet bullseye. ZZenith Jan 2019 #33

Any primary challenges to AOC will be turned back. The Truth Is Here Jan 2019 #6

She is the only Democrat in the House who voted against funding the government last week. George II Jan 2019 #25

Ouch. ucrdem Jan 2019 #97

' the Democratic lawmaker, who requested anonymity, ' elleng Jan 2019 #9

Oh, so someone didn't have the stones to even put their name to this? Blue_Tires Jan 2019 #13

Primaries are problematic, but politics without them is worse Tom Rinaldo Jan 2019 #14

You are always a voice of reason scipan Jan 2019 #163

Jeez . . . let the newbies find their way. Ruffling feathers is a good thing. Vinca Jan 2019 #16

This is doable Apollyonus Jan 2019 #17

11.5% George II Jan 2019 #26

IT IS THE HILL (aka DEMS IN DISARAY!!!). IT IS AN "ANONYMOUS" SOURCE emulatorloo Jan 2019 #19

not LBN its just gossip with anonymous sources nt msongs Jan 2019 #29

No, she's not perfect but I've found her to be a badly needed breath of fresh air nt Jarqui Jan 2019 #30

Good luck "anonymous source." AOC is beloved in her district and won with 75% of the vote. Power 2 the People Jan 2019 #35

lulz Apollyonus Jan 2019 #51

Why did she vote against ending the shutdown? brush Jan 2019 #70

It was a tough call but she voted the will of her community. Power 2 the People Jan 2019 #73

The spending package (HR 648) did not include funding for DHS or ICE lapucelle Jan 2019 #80

That is interesting that she deleted her Instagram explanation R B Garr Feb 2019 #206

I hear IDE funding wasn't iin the bill. Can afford mistakes when La Guardia... brush Jan 2019 #83

I'm always ok with primary challengers Bradical79 Jan 2019 #41

+1 demmiblue Jan 2019 #46

Goose, gander mcar Jan 2019 #43

Jinx, You Owe Me A Coke Me. Jan 2019 #53

and she adtively primaried somebody herself and won. That's what primaries are for. I say bring JCanete Jan 2019 #87

Someone who can get out the vote might be a serious challenger. ehrnst Jan 2019 #119

that's true. That's when she wasn't a household name. nt JCanete Jan 2019 #120

It might behoove her to set up an office in her district. And she certainly was ehrnst Jan 2019 #128

I've come around on AOC... TexasAggieDemocrat12 Jan 2019 #44

She is doing everything Apollyonus Jan 2019 #50

Voting with the Republicans... or, voting to CONTINUE with the shutdown... was bizarre. NurseJackie Jan 2019 #57

You can find details of all the votes here: George II Jan 2019 #61

Yes, I saw that. There was an article about her voting against both resolutions..and guess WHY... Honeycombe8 Jan 2019 #75

I believe that all Representatives should be fully informed... NurseJackie Jan 2019 #76

"Some Dems, some Dems", is this FOX News; do we now converse in MAGA Speak? Magoo48 Jan 2019 #60

I would ouija Jan 2019 #62

She's a loose cannon but I like her energy and enthusiasm. honest.abe Jan 2019 #65

Now everyone can have their own purity tests ripcord Jan 2019 #81

She is a star! Puppyjive Jan 2019 #74

Good question. InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2019 #93

Who is "destroying the young?" ehrnst Jan 2019 #136

I can't believe this thread is still going on, watoos Jan 2019 #77

THIS!!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2019 #94

+a zillion shanny Jan 2019 #108

Cenk took millions of dollars from a right wing corporation... George II Jan 2019 #110

Why are we giving time to TheHill? bitterross Jan 2019 #78

Crows coming home to roost. GulfCoast66 Jan 2019 #79

No one is complaining melman Jan 2019 #82

lol shanny Jan 2019 #86

Her supporters will welcome a Democratic challenger I have no doubt. ucrdem Jan 2019 #96

of course she has enemies KayF Jan 2019 #98

If we do, we will begin to build a viable third party that will really hurt us in the end. STOP allgood33 Jan 2019 #100

Cortez is using the story to solicit money for her re-election fund. lapucelle Jan 2019 #101

I like the argument, watoos Jan 2019 #103

What DU policy? There have been threads here on DU where people say that all ehrnst Jan 2019 #138

i'd like to know who are the Reps who are rankled by this dynamic young lady onetexan Jan 2019 #105

She is a breath of fresh air and just what the party needs to counterbalance Sparky 1 Jan 2019 #106

Why are you so bound and determined to bash Democrats and the Democratic Party? George II Jan 2019 #134

it's so ridiculous JHan Jan 2019 #137

I wonder who the "old, staid, oil-money sucking Dems" are. George II Jan 2019 #145

Political Compass? That rabid, anti-Democratic site? That's your go to? ehrnst Jan 2019 #147

This is just bashing Democrats Apollyonus Jan 2019 #156

Wow! What the party needs is for people to VOTE for Hortensis Jan 2019 #160

No answer? PLEASE tell me the Republicans' extreme cruelty Hortensis Jan 2019 #184

You have no idea what you're talking abut. You need Cha Jan 2019 #176

A breath of fresh air indeed... toiling successfully behind the scenes, out of the spotlight ehrnst Jan 2019 #193

If someone wants to throw their time and money away on doing so then that's their prerogative. Ace Rothstein Jan 2019 #127

Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2019 #150

This message was self-deleted by its author ehrnst Jan 2019 #159

AOC was promoting Justice Dems idea that her fellow Dems be primaried, just last November. ehrnst Jan 2019 #155

"Justice Democrats said it will prioritize women and diversity in its recruitment." George II Jan 2019 #162

That didn't work out so well for those "justice dems" Cha Jan 2019 #186

Not really. (nt) ehrnst Jan 2019 #187

Yeah, and just because AOC wants to Cha Jan 2019 #185

What's that quote from Animal Farm? ehrnst Jan 2019 #191

Nobody is saying anything remotely like that melman Jan 2019 #195

Primary THEM! denbot Jan 2019 #174

Um... AOC has already said that they should be - last November... ehrnst Jan 2019 #188

We should be careful not to turn on our own Sparky 1 Jan 2019 #183

You mean like this? ehrnst Jan 2019 #189

Yes, she's not exempt. Sparky 1 Jan 2019 #194

Yawn, The Hill crap again. pwb Jan 2019 #201