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In reply to the discussion: Pennsylvania to impose asset test for food stamps [View all]caseymoz
(5,763 posts)87. You have to eat your 2002 Toyota Corolla to qualify for food stamps?
This is the old Republican complain: "The poor just aren't pathetic enough. Too many have refrigerators and TV's. They haven't lost everything, yet."
I'm curious if Repubs fantasize that they'll be more humane as soon as the 99 percent are living in mud huts and eating newspaper from landfills. Obviously, GOP just need more time to accomplish this; they're working hard on it. Somehow, I doubt the poor will qualify for help even then. I think the wealthy will just impose caste system and write us off as subhuman.
So, is PA ready to see people starve due to this decision?
And what will PA do then? Does the legislature have a "safety-net" of their own, a contingency plan, in case their suspicions about gougers are proved paranoid and their faith in free market wildly exaggerated, and so they starve people instead of motivating them?
The limit on the car value is baffling. What of a person with a $5,000 car? Are you supposed to certify that you ate it first to qualify for real food? Would PA want the owner to sell it or trade down to a less reliable car, thus decreasing their chances of getting a job? That car could be the one advantage that they have that digs them out. And after the person sells the car at a cut-rate, since the states obvious presumption is that they'll be buying food with the proceeds, would PA give them food stamps for a longer, or perhaps indefinite period since they crippled the family's ability to have a breadwinner, or even travel for necessities?
And what does the car somebody bought two years prior to going poor have to do with it? If a person is in trouble, it should be good that they still have some advantage, some to help dig them out, or help them deal.
For people who hate communism, this is the most irresponsible excuse for creating a famine since Josef Stalin's.
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Sounds like a great way of ensuring people have to depend on assistance forever
theAntiRand
Jan 2012
#3
Did we asset test the banksters before we bailed them out? I bet they had way more than $2,000.
fasttense
Jan 2012
#6
My brother became disabled with a broken shoulder and all he got was food stamps
Kolesar
Jan 2012
#12
Agree, horribly low. Most people here in the North East need that much in their account just to be
harun
Jan 2012
#38
I have experience in 3 states, and they ALWAYS count cash and cars..
Viva_La_Revolution
Jan 2012
#16
So you can own three+ houses and still get food stamps? While I agree that the asset limit should
jwirr
Jan 2012
#49
That is true. I was thinking that all of a sudden we drop the means tests for assets when the
jwirr
Jan 2012
#77
Assets could include furniture and other household goods. Should a person have to sell their
pnwmom
Jan 2012
#79
A dining room isn't a luxury in a little house with no eating space in the kitchen.
pnwmom
Jan 2012
#117
I don't know where the limits should be set, but I'm OK with this idea in principle.
maggiesfarmer
Jan 2012
#27
No it is not fraud. Nothing in the programs say that you have to work enough hours a week to get
jwirr
Jan 2012
#53
That is not fraud. When working with special ed clients who have jobs we always monitor their income
jwirr
Jan 2012
#89
I'm calling BS on this story of yours, it sounds exactly like a wingnut stereotype.
Odin2005
Jan 2012
#96
I think you made a wrong turn somewhere, you seem to have turned left, when you meant to turn right.
rubberducky
Jan 2012
#39
you're shaming me for being a democrat in favor of vetting food stamp applicants?
maggiesfarmer
Jan 2012
#40
Inflamitory? If there are no guidelines for these programs the banksters would be on them. I am
jwirr
Jan 2012
#58
the whole thread is over whether or not it's OK to have a vetting process for food stamp recipients.
maggiesfarmer
Jan 2012
#59
you're correct and reinforcing my point, Mary was getting funds elsewhere and this should've
maggiesfarmer
Jan 2012
#57
Right, it's the RETURN to an asset test which is bucking the national trend.
Gormy Cuss
Jan 2012
#46
Sadly I know a family with net worth in the millions that applied and got them.
Yo_Mama
Jan 2012
#84
I am pretty sure that my state has had this kind of asset test for many years. We cannot have
jwirr
Jan 2012
#47
Another fine job by Gov Tom "I take money from known pedophiles" Corbett the Fracker
LynneSin
Jan 2012
#54
Republicans would be just as happy if half the population starved to death!
MarkCharles
Jan 2012
#69
If you live in PA and don't have any food, you can always devour fracking chemicals.
blue neen
Jan 2012
#99
So Pennsylvania will let children go hungry if their parents have more than
coalition_unwilling
Jan 2012
#101
yes, & $2000 in assets - 1 shitty used car. if you have an unshitty used car you're sol, you have
HiPointDem
Jul 2012
#119