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oldsoftie

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49. It works in Europe. Everyone pays SOMETHING.
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 05:14 PM
Feb 2019

And again, raise the rates to whatever you like, there still wont be NEARLY enough new money to pay for any of the programs that we want. Its just not there. When the top 20% are already paying nearly 90% of the income tax revenue, its just not going to get a lot of extra money
The total reported income in this country is around 10-11 trillion a year. We're already spending 40+% of that. Now the "unreported income" is a totally different number.
I dont really care of a consumption tax is regressive; send out a check of some size to those below "X" dollars of income. That'll level it out a bit. But I know SO many people who are stated income folks who NEVER claim their actual earnings. Many of them are pretty wealthy IMO. Sales tax is the only way to get EVERYONE. and its the only way to raise "real" money.

we should also consider the differences in the populations of these other countries compared to ours, but thats another OP

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They can afford politicians.... safeinOhio Feb 2019 #1
Man, you got that one right. Firestorm49 Feb 2019 #4
Right on! SammyWinstonJack Feb 2019 #15
They've been soaking us in their trickle-down urine for decades. lagomorph777 Feb 2019 #30
Too little too late. They captured most of the wealth of this country, and thus, relatively ... SWBTATTReg Feb 2019 #2
Yup, they already emptied the vaults. Furture economic stability of our democracy depends on KPN Feb 2019 #8
You're right in that it does need to be implemented worldwide, for they pit country against... SWBTATTReg Feb 2019 #13
... just how much is too much? ... aggiesal Feb 2019 #18
Ha! Figures that it was Rockefeller that said this! Thanks! Take care. nt SWBTATTReg Feb 2019 #20
It was done going back DownriverDem Feb 2019 #3
That was before globalism and the efficient ability to move money and oneself and family anywhere KPN Feb 2019 #10
But very few ever paid the high rates of 60-70 yrs back. Hardly ANYONE did. oldsoftie Feb 2019 #32
Consumption taxes are regressive UpInArms Feb 2019 #41
It works in Europe. Everyone pays SOMETHING. oldsoftie Feb 2019 #49
Exempt things like food and ... UpInArms Feb 2019 #53
Everyone is greedier today it seems. BigmanPigman Feb 2019 #52
GOPers are always talking about the good old days of the '50s so let's give them '50s tax rates RockRaven Feb 2019 #5
I heard last week that Eisenhower taxed the rich 90% BigmanPigman Feb 2019 #23
There were a lot of war bonds to pay off too. But all those post-war baby-boom good times RockRaven Feb 2019 #27
Look it up and you'll see that hardly anyone paid near 90%. There used to be LOTS more deductions. oldsoftie Feb 2019 #33
See my post #41 UpInArms Feb 2019 #42
Tax the Uber rich.... the_sly_pig Feb 2019 #6
Ergo the concerns for decades now about "corporate Dems". I know people here bristle at KPN Feb 2019 #11
I went to college from 80-84 ... aggiesal Feb 2019 #21
That why I went to a technical school & the national Guard. I graduated with zero debt; oldsoftie Feb 2019 #50
Well, we all know how this will play out. Invade Venezuela, or why not Iran -- or North Korea? KPN Feb 2019 #7
I agree totally duforsure Feb 2019 #9
Trump proposed one time 14.5% tax on wealth over $10 million Cicada Feb 2019 #12
Psst, just to let you know ... aggiesal Feb 2019 #22
LOL - That was when he was in the red! N/t TexasBushwhacker Feb 2019 #37
Needs a better title h2ebits Feb 2019 #14
Need that to sustain government, but also need to work up from the bottom William Seger Feb 2019 #16
Ignorant Americans fell for the Republican's "job creators" bullshit even after George Sr. called jalan48 Feb 2019 #17
Soaking?? jayschool2013 Feb 2019 #19
I see the phrase "Pay their fair share" often but what does this mean? OnlinePoker Feb 2019 #26
Great question jayschool2013 Feb 2019 #29
In 2015, the top 1% paid 39% of all income taxes. The top 50% pay 97% of all income taxes. oldsoftie Feb 2019 #34
It is used so much it no longer has any meaning. pangaia Feb 2019 #51
Fair share Traildogbob Feb 2019 #36
That is not even close to being true MichMan Feb 2019 #39
BS. Traildogbob Feb 2019 #40
My total federal taxes last year were $11.5k MichMan Feb 2019 #43
Buh bye! Traildogbob Feb 2019 #44
Your situation must be a lot different than mine MichMan Feb 2019 #46
Bless your heart MITCHman Traildogbob Feb 2019 #54
K & R SunSeeker Feb 2019 #24
I support this. They recently got the whole candy store. calimary Feb 2019 #25
Not soaking the rich we're Restoring fairness in taxation. The wealthy Fullduplexxx Feb 2019 #28
The benefits were not only a low tax rate... Moostache Feb 2019 #31
When asked why he wanted to climb Mt. Everest DirtEdonE Feb 2019 #35
Soak us all. Everyone should be paying AT LEAST 50% in taxes. nt MadDAsHell Feb 2019 #38
Um, no. christx30 Feb 2019 #45
K&R ck4829 Feb 2019 #47
Kick Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 2019 #48
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