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MarvinGardens

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59. Disagree in this case.

Reply to politicaljunkie41910 (Reply #26)

Sun Feb 17, 2019, 11:57 PM

Feb 2019

Respect authority, yes, but this does not mean to not question. And it certainly does not mean that you 100% obey in all cases. And if you disagree with that last point, are you saying there is literally nothing you would refuse to do, if an authority figure told you to do it? And would you have your minor children do anything, literally anything, that an authority figure asked them to do? As a parent, I do not advise this level of obediance in all situations.

I really could not disagree with you more in this case.

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11-year-old Florida boy arrested for refusing to stand for the Pledge of Allegiance [View all] Judi Lynn Feb 2019 OP

Surely arresting this child demonstrates the freedoms that make this country great. ( n/t ) Make7 Feb 2019 #1

Bingo! nt Xipe Totec Feb 2019 #8

Kid sounds a whole lot smarter than the substitute teacher. Scurrilous Feb 2019 #2

No he doesn't, and I blame his mother for his attitude. I guess we know who runs that home. politicaljunkie41910 Feb 2019 #26

I fail to understand why you're blaming this child Haggis for Breakfast Feb 2019 #28

I stated very clearly what my opinion was. You're welcome to your own. When my kids were growing politicaljunkie41910 Feb 2019 #47

You fail to respond to my point: Haggis for Breakfast Feb 2019 #62

I understand that the most important factor is safety Rorey Feb 2019 #83

Immediately after that quoted portion of the article: Grokenstein Feb 2019 #29

Your analogy comparing an 11 yr old child telling a teacher what he does and doesn't do to Zimmerman politicaljunkie41910 Feb 2019 #34

You justifying this arrest wellst0nev0ter Feb 2019 #45

Bookmarking. n/t rzemanfl Feb 2019 #80

I was comparing the kid to Trayvon Martin, not Zimmerman Grokenstein Feb 2019 #103

The substitute teacher should be fired for blatant racism. yardwork Feb 2019 #98

Nobody has to give up their first amendment rights at the threshold of the schoolhouse Major Nikon Feb 2019 #40

Tinker v. DeMoine 3Hotdogs Feb 2019 #41

The Bill of Rights is an integral part of our Constitution.Free Speech is a paramount value delisen Feb 2019 #48

He is an American, not a 1935 German boy who failed to salute! Smackdown2019 Feb 2019 #51

I have to agree with you on this one. It's different for a student in school. Honeycombe8 Feb 2019 #55

Standing for the pledge of allegiance DOES NOT Haggis for Breakfast Feb 2019 #61

Your disagreement is noted. Honeycombe8 Feb 2019 #64

This incident taught this student nothing about respecting authority . . . markpkessinger Feb 2019 #70

I Get Your Point, But... ProfessorGAC Feb 2019 #74

+1 myohmy2 Feb 2019 #69

+100000 Pachamama Feb 2019 #78

Standing for the Pledge Sgent Feb 2019 #65

I did not know this. Honeycombe8 Feb 2019 #85

That is absolute madness. Codeine Feb 2019 #75

I don't respond to personally insulting posts. Placed on ignore. Honeycombe8 Feb 2019 #84

Im wounded. nt Codeine Feb 2019 #86

You're welcome. Honeycombe8 Feb 2019 #87

The niggling detail you ignore Codeine Feb 2019 #89

As an adult, you should be aware of the relevant difference LanternWaste Feb 2019 #97

It is settled case law that a student cannot be compelled to stand for the Pledge. obamanut2012 Feb 2019 #90

I appreciate your being a voice of reason. FTR, I didn't concur with an 11 y.o.child being arrested. politicaljunkie41910 Feb 2019 #102

Disagree in this case. MarvinGardens Feb 2019 #59

He wasn't interfering with anything ArizonaLib Feb 2019 #66

I get where this is coming from. Mr. Frost Feb 2019 #68

Good, he did the right thing and was right obamanut2012 Feb 2019 #92

The teacher was in the wrong, no doubt. Mr. Frost Feb 2019 #93

This is 100% on the teacher meadowlander Feb 2019 #96

This message was self-deleted by its author trusty elf Feb 2019 #3

That adult missed a great teaching opportunity WhoWoodaKnew Feb 2019 #4

My son refused to stand for it mcar Feb 2019 #5

I was wondering what the charge could underpants Feb 2019 #9

Sitting is not disruptive, and the officer wouldn't be a factor if they weren't made a factor. TheBlackAdder Feb 2019 #36

I stopped standing late in the 8th grade. Codeine Feb 2019 #76

Here is a local account of the incident: mahatmakanejeeves Feb 2019 #6

They arrested an 11 YO boy for that? mcar Feb 2019 #10

Unfortunately this is how they criminalize black children BumRushDaShow Feb 2019 #13

Cops should know better mcar Feb 2019 #14

EVERYONE in that school should know better. progressoid Feb 2019 #18

Yes! mcar Feb 2019 #19

It's deeper than that BumRushDaShow Feb 2019 #20

You are right, BRDS mcar Feb 2019 #21

She TOLD HIM TO GO BACK TO HIS HOMELAND? forgotmylogin Feb 2019 #27

It's Florida, her teaching dance card will be filled for the next 10 tears! :-D TheBlackAdder Feb 2019 #38

Yep. And the child was arrested. Proved this child's point. yardwork Feb 2019 #99

The usual program Beowulf42 Feb 2019 #39

It would seem to me that the teacher was the one disrupting the class. LiberalFighter Feb 2019 #54

"Resisting an officer without violence' . . . markpkessinger Feb 2019 #71

It's his RIGHT! B Stieg Feb 2019 #7

He answered, saying, "they brought me here." BumRushDaShow Feb 2019 #11

Those images make me so sick to my stomach Pachamama Feb 2019 #79

hope the kid gets a really good lawyer! samnsara Feb 2019 #12

This message was self-deleted by its author Mr. Frost Feb 2019 #42

More fodder for the next episode of The Two Minutes Hate. nt EarthFirst Feb 2019 #15

Arresting a child in a school TNNurse Feb 2019 #16

There is no law mcar Feb 2019 #22

I was most certain of that. TNNurse Feb 2019 #24

Seems they make their own here sometimes mcar Feb 2019 #57

Wrong A DAY IN THE LIFE Feb 2019 #88

That is completely unconstitutional mcar Feb 2019 #91

A family member is a lawyer in Lakeland, but I suspect this young person will have many choices. dameatball Feb 2019 #17

Good by principal.....forever...never get another job... Stuart G Feb 2019 #23

I Found One - One Of Those Teachers DallasNE Feb 2019 #25

If there's one thing that scares these crackers Turbineguy Feb 2019 #30

Teacher's actually a Cuban Batistano wellst0nev0ter Feb 2019 #46

Hard to understand this. Desert grandma Feb 2019 #31

There goes another promising NFL career. CaptYossarian Feb 2019 #32

Arrest an 11-year old for not pledging allegiance? democrank Feb 2019 #33

Not arrested for refusing to recite the pledge JohnnyRingo Feb 2019 #35

The substitute teacher should be arrested. Get rid of the pledge bs. rockfordfile Feb 2019 #49

Clearly she doesn't relate well to students JohnnyRingo Feb 2019 #53

misdemeanors? moonseller66 Feb 2019 #37

I was a teacher in a high school, permanently appointed.. Stuart G Feb 2019 #43

Case still has to play out, but here's a bit of clarity from a local source.... KY_EnviroGuy Feb 2019 #44

His rights were being violated. alphafemale Feb 2019 #104

West Virginia State Board of Education v. Barnette dflprincess Feb 2019 #50

Thank you for posting... Pachamama Feb 2019 #81

WTF? Nitram Feb 2019 #52

Und so beginnt es... Darson Feb 2019 #56

First of all it was a substitute teacher. She needed to keep her trap shut. She's wasting class time YOHABLO Feb 2019 #58

Sounds to me like Lakeland and that private school just paid for that kid's college education... pecosbob Feb 2019 #60

The idiots who continue to defy the Constitution will help pay for his college expenses. efhmc Feb 2019 #63

Can someone tell me what a "resource officer" is? Mr. Frost Feb 2019 #67

Rent A Cop. Bantamfancier Feb 2019 #72

In Florida they're actually sworn LEOs. Codeine Feb 2019 #77

Teachers should encourage diversity MissMillie Feb 2019 #73

Authoritarian-itis LogicFirst Feb 2019 #82

Arrested???? McCamy Taylor Feb 2019 #94

"They proved him right" My son's response to hearing this story. McCamy Taylor Feb 2019 #95

EXACTLY. yardwork Feb 2019 #100

I have not stood since about 2nd grade. alphafemale Feb 2019 #101

I might be late to the game here, but... Juneboarder Feb 2019 #105