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105. God I hope so

Tue Feb 19, 2019, 09:13 AM

Feb 2019

I always had a high opinion of Bernie, but I didn't support his run for president. Some people just aren't presidential material. It takes more than great ideas and compelling rhetoric to be the most powerful person on the planet.

Sadly, now my opinion of him is less than it used to be, as it feels like he got bitten by the president bug and he is doing this for all the wrong reasons. He should look back at all the failed candidacies in the Democratic party and see how others handled their loss with grace and dignity and went on to serve in other ways - Al Gore, John Kerry, Hillary Clint (twice), John Dean (best DNC chair ever and helped get Obama elected), Joe Biden. And of those, Al Gore and Hillary Clinton won the popular vote and probably had the election stolen from them.

This is starting to feel like one huge ego trip. He could and should do better than that.

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UPDATE: Sen. Bernie Sanders will seek the Democratic presidential nomination in 2020 [View all] BumRushDaShow Feb 2019 OP

Has he adjusted his party affiliation yet? dhol82 Feb 2019 #1

He had better - according to the current DNC rules, he had to change his affiliation.... George II Feb 2019 #25

Yes, it's been a whole ten minutes since Bernie declared!! Puhhhleeease!! InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2019 #50

DNC rules state, among other things, that one must be a Democrat "at the time of declaring". George II Feb 2019 #90

Woo hoo!! Power 2 the People Feb 2019 #147

oh geeeeez samnsara Feb 2019 #2

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz............ BostonBlue Feb 2019 #3

I wish he would just go away Botany Feb 2019 #4

Same here we can do it Feb 2019 #10

Post removed Post removed Feb 2019 #11

Been thinking that. we can do it Feb 2019 #14

Highly doubtful. chwaliszewski Feb 2019 #64

Same here SkyDaddy7 Feb 2019 #13

Exactly! justie18 Feb 2019 #74

You have to ask yourself: Why is he running again? luvtheGWN Feb 2019 #94

His latest poorly reviewed book is not selling Gothmog Feb 2019 #104

100% same obamanut2012 Feb 2019 #36

I feel Rebl2 Feb 2019 #73

Me too. Lonestarblue Feb 2019 #79

I don't. But I wish he wasn't running. Iggo Feb 2019 #93

Yes, what happened treestar Feb 2019 #107

That kinda died when they tried it on Pelosi. Iggo Feb 2019 #139

:pops corn:: EarthFirst Feb 2019 #5

We need you in the Senate Bernie....... Bengus81 Feb 2019 #6

Yep Martin Eden Feb 2019 #15

Really, he's only 1 year older than Biden then. vsrazdem Feb 2019 #51

Biden should not run either Perseus Feb 2019 #71

I love Rebl2 Feb 2019 #128

I don't get it. This ageism really is offensive. I think Nancy Pelosi is doing a great job and she vsrazdem Feb 2019 #117

How old is too old ...? Martin Eden Feb 2019 #125

I agree. LudwigPastorius Feb 2019 #180

Here's the problem as I see it... potone Feb 2019 #127

"We need younger people who have the stamina to govern, and who can inspire young people to vote!" Martin Eden Feb 2019 #155

No, we need him to resign so a Democrat can run for his Senate seat. Maven Feb 2019 #77

I hope our party has the good sense murielm99 Feb 2019 #7

Not bragging, but we go to church every week. On Christmas and Easter we have to get there... George II Feb 2019 #20

Great post True Blue American Feb 2019 #34

You're suggesting it's preferable Bernie run as an Independent?! You can't be serious!! InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2019 #45

Spot on. safeinOhio Feb 2019 #120

Yeah, that's the problem. If we tell Bernie to go away, Chemisse Feb 2019 #124

You know that I am not suggesting any such thing. murielm99 Feb 2019 #154

NottaDem should team up with coffee guy. we can do it Feb 2019 #8

Riiiiight!! And seal victory for the Nazi-in-Chief?!?! No thank you!! InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2019 #49

"enters the race with..the biggest mailing list -- of any candidate for the Democratic nomination.." George II Feb 2019 #9

I expect he mined the DNC/ActBlue list BumRushDaShow Feb 2019 #19

I started getting emails from him and his surrogates a day or two after the Dec 2015 breach. George II Feb 2019 #21

Hmmm... BumRushDaShow Feb 2019 #24

As did I obamanut2012 Feb 2019 #37

Me too.... (nt) ehrnst Feb 2019 #70

I'm happy that... Mike Nelson Feb 2019 #12

He's not a Democrat. we can do it Feb 2019 #16

Irrelevant henbuck Feb 2019 #173

It is relevant. He's divisive as well. we can do it Feb 2019 #175

I was thinking the same thing PatSeg Feb 2019 #56

If he drops out early... Mike Nelson Feb 2019 #61

God I hope so PatSeg Feb 2019 #105

He is a strong supporter of Dem principles and has helped give voice to them in concrete terms. JudyM Feb 2019 #132

Trying his best to fuck up another. djg21 Feb 2019 #17

Go away, Bernie. Ugh. SCRUBDASHRUB Feb 2019 #18

I'm not going to post what I really want to Phoenix61 Feb 2019 #22

Is Biden too old, and what's with the ageism? nt babylonsister Feb 2019 #26

He's younger than Sanders. George II Feb 2019 #27

By a year? Yea, that makes a difference. nt babylonsister Feb 2019 #43

That's different you see because Biden had a (D) after his name. SammyWinstonJack Feb 2019 #55

Yep! nt babylonsister Feb 2019 #66

Yes, Biden is too old as well. BlueStater Feb 2019 #60

I love Biden but he needs to step aside and let a younger generation go for it. redstatebluegirl Feb 2019 #112

Biden would be 80 when he started his term if he was elected, think he's a year younger than Bernie. yaesu Feb 2019 #119

I Have Zero Interest in Senator Sanders . . OldManTarHeel Feb 2019 #23

Why????????? WhoWoodaKnew Feb 2019 #28

Putin wins another day. He will use Sanders to destroy the party. dem4decades Feb 2019 #29

Hah. I clicked on your post to add "again", it's already there! George II Feb 2019 #30

I post on a different site that has Trump fans on it. They were dem4decades Feb 2019 #62

Spare us, pleeeeease! 2naSalit Feb 2019 #31

Post removed Post removed Feb 2019 #32

Cosign obamanut2012 Feb 2019 #41

Not thrilled. Fuzzpope Feb 2019 #33

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Isn't that flight fully booked? nt Snellius Feb 2019 #38

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California is a Super Tuesday state now obamanut2012 Feb 2019 #40

This should make 2020's more robust debate format much more interesting. jalan48 Feb 2019 #42

How so? (nt) ehrnst Feb 2019 #82

Bernie pushes the political discussion more to the left. if American's don't agree the results jalan48 Feb 2019 #83

HRC certainly pushed Senator Sanders to the left on Social justice issues. ehrnst Feb 2019 #86

We shall see which is why it's good to debate the issues. jalan48 Feb 2019 #88

Let me rephrase ehrnst Feb 2019 #95

I believe there will be more debates in 2020. jalan48 Feb 2019 #97

So who thinks it would "not" be good to debate the issues? ehrnst Feb 2019 #98

Enjoy the debates! jalan48 Feb 2019 #99

Not going to answer? ehrnst Feb 2019 #100

. George II Feb 2019 #145

"We shall see"? You say that it's good to debate the issue, when asked why you say "we shall see"? George II Feb 2019 #118

Six debates planned in 2019 and six more in 2020. Terrific! jalan48 Feb 2019 #123

yep, we need that push to the left & he does a good job with that yaesu Feb 2019 #121

I haven't decided yet. I would love to see a woman as well and we have several good ones running jalan48 Feb 2019 #122

If Democratic candidates in some Districts lost to republicans who were to the right of them.... George II Feb 2019 #131

Surely, by party politics alone, you must see that democrats are, on a whole, to the left of the.... birbeus Feb 2019 #137

Elections are won by district and state, not nationally. A "leftward" Democrat in many districts... George II Feb 2019 #150

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taxes please ! stonecutter357 Feb 2019 #46

I wonder what the reaction will be among Democrats when they see the likes of Susan Sarandon, Cornel still_one Feb 2019 #47

He will be 80 years old and still not a Dem. I'll pass. amuse bouche Feb 2019 #48

So if it is a trump vs Bernie choice NJCher Feb 2019 #76

I predict that neither will be candidates next year. George II Feb 2019 #89

It won't be that choice but thanks for your concern amuse bouche Feb 2019 #115

You'll be voting for Bernie NJCher Feb 2019 #163

Actually, ideas are easy to talk about when no reality R B Garr Feb 2019 #167

"You'll be voting for Bernie" amuse bouche Feb 2019 #168

thank you NJCher Feb 2019 #169

' thank you It was meant to annoy. ' amuse bouche Feb 2019 #170

will he at least have the good sense this time to drop out cab67 Feb 2019 #52

Well, I won't vote for him in the primary, but he can have his chance like any other Tarc Feb 2019 #53

I see hurple Feb 2019 #54

Hard pass for all the reasons.... AkFemDem Feb 2019 #57

Seek away, BS, but first show us your tax returns. Squinch Feb 2019 #58

Thanks Bernie for helping give us Donald Trump katmondoo Feb 2019 #59

It is not that I disagree with him on many issues. TNNurse Feb 2019 #63

Neither Biden nor Bernie are too old if at140 Feb 2019 #111

Non sequitur. nt fleabiscuit Feb 2019 #157

"HE IS TOO DAMN OLD." was what I answered to at140 Feb 2019 #158

Lots of jobs you won't get hired for over 70yo. nt EX500rider Feb 2019 #159

Agreed, but depends on the job! at140 Feb 2019 #165

Yay. Go Bernie! mountain grammy Feb 2019 #65

If Bernie wins the Dem nomination, would you vote for him? chwaliszewski Feb 2019 #67

Hell yeah! McCamy Taylor Feb 2019 #68

That "devil's advocate" question would probably garner a hide if someone answered it here BumRushDaShow Feb 2019 #69

Unlike several past (and a few current) DU members, I will vote for the Democratic POTUS nominee ehrnst Feb 2019 #72

Absolutely. Iggo Feb 2019 #91

Yes. treestar Feb 2019 #108

Absolutely. nt yaesu Feb 2019 #141

If he wins it AND accepts it, yes. n/t namahage Feb 2019 #161

Seriously? Iggo Feb 2019 #166

Yes, seriously. namahage Feb 2019 #172

Post removed Post removed Feb 2019 #75

This lunamagica Feb 2019 #78

I just hope all the Dems running, pile on Trump - OhZone Feb 2019 #80

Anybody but Bernie kennetha Feb 2019 #81

Blech. Squinch Feb 2019 #84

So sorry to read this. This will divide us again...say hello to Trump 2020. apcalc Feb 2019 #85

Or worse, Pence LongtimeAZDem Feb 2019 #136

Remember when we used to make fun of Reagan, Dole, and McCain for being so old? BlueStater Feb 2019 #87

If i'm voting for anyone over 70, it's for Joe Biden onetexan Feb 2019 #101

Same here Gothmog Feb 2019 #106

I made fun of McCain... Iggo Feb 2019 #140

Good, now Congressman Neal can request 2 sets of taxes bottomofthehill Feb 2019 #92

Wonderful news! RobertDevereaux Feb 2019 #96

He doesn't have a chance this time. redstatebluegirl Feb 2019 #102

+1 Imagine if Hillary ran again treestar Feb 2019 #109

I love Hillary but I agree with this. redstatebluegirl Feb 2019 #113

He got the kid gloves treatment last time around for a reason. Chemisse Feb 2019 #126

Yep, I said that last time. redstatebluegirl Feb 2019 #129

Where are his tax returns? Gothmog Feb 2019 #103

Though its always a good thing for candidates to show it is not required or even expected yaesu Feb 2019 #142

sanders will have to skip Maryland unless he releases his returns Gothmog Feb 2019 #153

Yes, I spotted that online and more states may follow though if contested yaesu Feb 2019 #164

The most vital question for DU folks solidLxxi Feb 2019 #110

He won't. BlueStater Feb 2019 #116

After raising $4 million in one day solidLxxi Feb 2019 #171

That's before Trump voters opened their Cracker Jacks and got their surprise. Snellius Feb 2019 #130

Of course I would vote for him or any other Dem running in the GE. nt yaesu Feb 2019 #144

The hardest of passes. TexasAggieDemocrat12 Feb 2019 #114

It's important to note this: George II Feb 2019 #133

Sigh. The harmony on DU was nice while it lasted. Politicub Feb 2019 #134

Excellent news! David__77 Feb 2019 #135

Tulsi Gabbard says.... angrychair Feb 2019 #138

It's funny to see folks pretend he has some kind of advantage Blue_Tires Feb 2019 #143

Wrong henbuck Feb 2019 #174

Oh no! No fool like an old fool I say. He'll split our vote like last time. Stuff it Bernie! Pulleez machoneman Feb 2019 #146

No thank you, please I'll have another. kimbutgar Feb 2019 #148

Nope. apnu Feb 2019 #149

Old white guys in the lead so far Baclava Feb 2019 #151

We are just starting the silly season. Avenatti? Isn't even running! apnu Feb 2019 #152

3 reasons to ignore him: Panich52 Feb 2019 #156

I've driven old used clunkers for a long time. fleabiscuit Feb 2019 #160

United we Win ....Divided..well.... you know how that go's already. UniteTheLeft Feb 2019 #162

Bernie should NOT run. End of story. nt SylviaD Feb 2019 #176

Bernine should NOT run. End of story. nt SylviaD Feb 2019 #177

bernie please GO AWAY!!!! Terminally_Chill Feb 2019 #178

Senator Warren has released 10 years of taxes Gothmog Feb 2019 #179