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hunter

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34. There is no protection against this sort of thing, and no fault can be attributed to the victim.
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 11:07 PM
Jan 2012

Blaming the victim is wrong. Some scumbag committed a crime.

Most of us, if we found a cell phone, would treat it like a found wallet, looking at it just enough to figure out how we might return it to the owner. Only a criminal would see how much loot they could get before the credit cards were canceled, only a criminal would upload the content to the internet. Most of us would feel a little embarrassed if we saw a photo obviously not intended for our eyes.

Electronics makes these crimes more likely, and the internet makes photos easy to access, but even before electronics there could be some creep taking photographs through your window without your knowledge and selling the photos in the back of a pulp magazine... or a photo store clerk making copies of a customer's kinky kodachromes... or a lover misplacing some racy Polaroids.

On the other hand most of the stuff on the internet isn't stolen, it's manufactured, just like the stuff in the pulp magazine ads used to be, with voyeur customers pretending it's real, or if they are not too bright, actually believing it's real.

And celebrities certainly have trouble with the paparazzi... although most of that is manufactured too.

I think the grievousness of this assault has a lot to do with the nature of Facebook and other electronic means of associating the photographs with the victim. I don't like Facebook for that reason. In most casual situations firm identities do not make the internet a safer, more enjoyable place. In the real world I don't check the identification of people I'm casually chatting with in a bar or a line at Disneyland.

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good. now prosecute the creep who did it and throw his/her ass in jail. nt seabeyond Jan 2012 #1
Lotsa luck with that. nt onehandle Jan 2012 #2
The Internet interprets censorship as damage and routes around it. Towlie Jan 2012 #3
This will create some thorny situations. The Doctor. Jan 2012 #4
I'd imagine the the site's host has a terms of service agreement which details that LanternWaste Jan 2012 #5
Right, but I didn't say 'should'. The Doctor. Jan 2012 #10
huh? SemperEadem Jan 2012 #43
That was supposed to read 'did say', The Doctor. Jan 2012 #50
This is no different than a thief stealing a camera or a laptop and putting images on the internet. pnwmom Jan 2012 #6
If you read my post, you'll see that wasn't lost on me. The Doctor. Jan 2012 #9
Why do you think I'm looking to "create an argument"? pnwmom Jan 2012 #14
Your post was of a very 'correcting' nature. The Doctor. Jan 2012 #19
And? AtheistCrusader Jan 2012 #13
This is very specific, and very limited. Even at that, she's "out there" like it or not. MADem Jan 2012 #7
A thief could steal a laptop, a desktop, or a camera pnwmom Jan 2012 #12
Try bitlocker. AtheistCrusader Jan 2012 #15
Good to know. Does that work on a camera, too? n/t pnwmom Jan 2012 #17
Nope. I'm not aware of any camera's that have encryption built in. AtheistCrusader Jan 2012 #22
They'd have to hack into it, if you have it locked with a password. MADem Jan 2012 #18
Interesting case Sherman A1 Jan 2012 #8
What's the enforcement mechanism for people who run into the photo JackRiddler Jan 2012 #11
free speech laws should not protect stolen property that poses harm towards another person. alp227 Jan 2012 #16
Here's a problem: The Doctor. Jan 2012 #20
The people who posted her personal details obviously did. DirkGently Jan 2012 #25
How? The Doctor. Jan 2012 #29
They. Posted. Her. Personal. Details? And nude photos. Without permission? DirkGently Jan 2012 #36
You. Totally. Missed. What. I. Said. The Doctor. Jan 2012 #42
Not at all. She didn't sue the world. She sued a website that had her personal information & photos. DirkGently Jan 2012 #56
OMG. Please, read carefully now... The Doctor. Jan 2012 #60
Maybe you shouldn't put these kind of photos online... Ecumenist Jan 2012 #21
It wasn't her who put them online. dipsydoodle Jan 2012 #23
SHE SENT THEM TO HER BOYFRIEND VIA HER PHONE and had Ecumenist Jan 2012 #30
So, if she'd been carrying an envelope with personal information, & that was stolen, it's her fault? DirkGently Jan 2012 #37
ThAT'S true that people have a right to expect that others won't steal Ecumenist Jan 2012 #40
*she* didnt' post her photos on the internet SemperEadem Jan 2012 #45
Maybe I didn't say it correctly....NEVER PUT ANYTHING ON A PHONE Ecumenist Jan 2012 #46
Well, since that's not going to happen any time soon, SemperEadem Jan 2012 #63
I agree with the legislation.... Ecumenist Jan 2012 #64
so it's her fault SemperEadem Jan 2012 #44
NOT THE SAME THING Sempereadam Ecumenist Jan 2012 #48
what you do is what you do... other people do other things... SemperEadem Jan 2012 #62
Never Walk In a Bad Neighborhood With Cash, Never Wear a Short Skirt to a Frat Party Upward Jan 2012 #51
Not the same thing, at all... Ecumenist Jan 2012 #53
that's basically ron paul's attitude towards sexual harassment in the work place SemperEadem Jan 2012 #61
Can't disagree with privacy rights for stolen private photos. DirkGently Jan 2012 #24
How exactly can it have worldwide implications? cstanleytech Jan 2012 #26
Good. nt bemildred Jan 2012 #27
If there is anything you really want kept secret, don't ever write it down anywhere. Lasher Jan 2012 #28
AMEN, Lasher! Ecumenist Jan 2012 #31
I'm in big trouble then. I share nothing linking myself, but given my opinion, strong and often. freshwest Jan 2012 #39
Or tell anybody, or keep it on your computer or PDA or cellphone, or post it on facebook, etc. bemildred Jan 2012 #49
Yes. Lasher Jan 2012 #52
Under that theory, you shouldn't share private matters with your spouse. DirkGently Jan 2012 #55
I have private conversations with my spouse - in person, not on the internet. Lasher Jan 2012 #57
I can't make an opinion without seeing the pictures AlphaCentauri Jan 2012 #32
! Lasher Jan 2012 #33
There is no protection against this sort of thing, and no fault can be attributed to the victim. hunter Jan 2012 #34
sorry but this gal is stupid, stupid, stupid Skittles Jan 2012 #35
If she had an embarrassing phone call, and someone tapped her line, would that be "stupid" as well? DirkGently Jan 2012 #38
OMG PLEASE Skittles Jan 2012 #41
That's what I'm saying Skittles.. Ecumenist Jan 2012 #47
So, everyone should expect their personal property to be stolen & exploited? DirkGently Jan 2012 #54
And everyone knows sex leads to pregnancy, so we don't need abortions? (nt) The Straight Story Jan 2012 #58
This thread is useless with out pics. Devil_Fish Jan 2012 #59
Great, now EVERYONE is going to see her naked. Ash_F Jan 2012 #65
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