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1. This is what Phyllis Schlafly warned us about

Reply to madville (Original post)

Sun Feb 24, 2019, 12:00 PM

Feb 2019

she claimed equal rights would lead down the slippery slope towards equal mandatory stuff like the draft

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With women in combat roles, a federal court rules the male-only draft unconstitutional [View all] madville Feb 2019 OP

This is what Phyllis Schlafly warned us about IronLionZion Feb 2019 #1

Except That Women Still Don't Have Equal Rights dlk Feb 2019 #4

But this was done without the ERA. Sanity Claws Feb 2019 #18

There will be no draft, so it's all very hypothetical. Odoreida Feb 2019 #27

How would it be impossible to enforce? People can be found. brush Feb 2019 #32

You assume a much higher level of general obedience than I do. Odoreida Feb 2019 #34

Nah, been there, done that. Resisted the draft but many didn't. brush Feb 2019 #35

I'm an old draft dodger myself. n/t Odoreida Feb 2019 #57

You are correct. It's by no means "impossible" to enforce. whathehell Feb 2019 #77

Doubtful we'll ever need a draft again. And if we did, i'd bet women would respond. oldsoftie Feb 2019 #2

As long as we continue to put RepubliCONs in the White House, there will always be SFnomad Feb 2019 #8

Not even then Major Nikon Feb 2019 #13

WE NEED A DRAFT! usaf-vet Feb 2019 #15

I've always thought we need a war tax Major Nikon Feb 2019 #23

This message was self-deleted by its author geralmar Feb 2019 #36

and we should also end not_the_one Feb 2019 #40

I agree. We need a draft with NO DEFERMENTS TexasBushwhacker Feb 2019 #42

I Agree RobinA Feb 2019 #63

That's what we had in the final years of Vietnam -- no deferments. All the young men I knew pnwmom Feb 2019 #75

usaf-vet - You got this exactly right. After the Vietnam War, the military was... EarnestPutz Feb 2019 #44

Yeah, none of the wars since have made the news much at ALL. oldsoftie Feb 2019 #49

I'm Not Sure RobinA Feb 2019 #64

Deferments for college students had ended in 1971. But the war went on for four more years pnwmom Feb 2019 #76

We can't afford a fair draft hack89 Feb 2019 #47

i disagree. Whatever makes the military the strongest is what we should do. And we've got that now. oldsoftie Feb 2019 #48

Well, *IF* we ever have a draft, it should be universal The Mouth Feb 2019 #55

That's Precisely Backwards smb Feb 2019 #56

Without the draft, WWII would have been lost Kaleva Feb 2019 #58

Evidence? smb Feb 2019 #59

Out of 17 million who served in WWII, over 60% were drafted. Kaleva Feb 2019 #68

Evidence! usaf-vet Feb 2019 #60

This message was self-deleted by its author usaf-vet Feb 2019 #61

Yeah, Because RobinA Feb 2019 #65

+1000. n/t pnwmom Feb 2019 #74

No. I was part of the movement that ENDED the draft. Vietnam would never have gone on pnwmom Feb 2019 #73

My original point "WE NEED A DRAFT" was draft protester would sway the politicians wanting a new war usaf-vet Feb 2019 #79

Your original point was wrong. We had a draft, and massive protests for YEARS pnwmom Feb 2019 #80

I bet there would be widespread disobedience regardless of sex. n/t Odoreida Feb 2019 #28

I would also love to see language included that stated... Javaman Feb 2019 #3

I think it would need to be modified to be at all fair lostnfound Feb 2019 #5

Agree. Women face risks and consequences men never will. lilactime Feb 2019 #37

Good, imo Oneironaut Feb 2019 #6

While women should be included in the selective service registration... nycbos Feb 2019 #7

Wasn't draft registration already in place... B Stieg Feb 2019 #9

Only males TimeToGo Feb 2019 #11

If you don't register, you are also excluded from ever getting federal employment Major Nikon Feb 2019 #14

So now women can be drafted, but the Constitution still doesn't recognize women as equal. SunSeeker Feb 2019 #10

This message was self-deleted by its author Major Nikon Feb 2019 #16

I know. But the implication is that drafts must now include women to be Constitutional. SunSeeker Feb 2019 #20

This message was self-deleted by its author Major Nikon Feb 2019 #22

I am correct. There is nothing stopping Congress from drafting women. SunSeeker Feb 2019 #25

Post removed Post removed Feb 2019 #39

My point was women can be drafted, but they're still not equal under the Constitution. SunSeeker Feb 2019 #43

+1000 smirkymonkey Feb 2019 #69

Personally I would not oppose a mandatory draft like thing for everyone for once they reach cstanleytech Feb 2019 #12

I would Major Nikon Feb 2019 #17

Where did I say they would not be paid? They would and should be paid for it and they are even cstanleytech Feb 2019 #19

Neither did I claim you did say that Major Nikon Feb 2019 #21

Great idea. But there are enough poor, desperate kids signing up now without those benefits. SunSeeker Feb 2019 #33

So A Volunteer RobinA Feb 2019 #66

Just how many of these Non-Military things would be needed. MarcA Feb 2019 #24

That's An Issue RobinA Feb 2019 #67

I really disagree with this. It ignores reality. Liberty Belle Feb 2019 #26

Assuming what you say TimeToGo Feb 2019 #38

There are plenty of jobs women can do that don't involve danger to their reproductive organs. SunSeeker Feb 2019 #41

Yes, your last point is spot on. Liberty Belle Feb 2019 #62

Fewer then 20% of the 16 million who served during WWII saw serious combat Kaleva Feb 2019 #52

The last sentence from the OP seem like one of the two likely outcomes from this still_one Feb 2019 #29

NOW has been pushing for this for a long time underpants Feb 2019 #30

NOW wants the ERA first. Otherwise, we could be in the draft and STILL pnwmom Feb 2019 #46

Makes sense in this day and age Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 2019 #31

Women should object. No ERA, no draft. pnwmom Feb 2019 #45

K&R smirkymonkey Feb 2019 #70

Pass the ERA Ammendment first. tazkcmo Feb 2019 #50

It's about time... the_sly_pig Feb 2019 #51

Right. Once the ERA is passed. smirkymonkey Feb 2019 #71

Men must join women in passing the ERA first. pnwmom Feb 2019 #72

Long past due. Kaleva Feb 2019 #53

Now there is no excuse not to have an ERA (Equal Right Amendment) McCamy Taylor Feb 2019 #54

MRA's are correct on this. As far as the ERA, men of color radius777 Feb 2019 #78