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112. Until <blank>, there will be no peace. <- a common right-wing line

Thu Sep 13, 2012, 07:57 AM

Sep 2012

(sigh) A sad thing to see on a site like this. "The Arabs desire to wipe out Israel" is a common right-wing lie and it is also sad to see that one here. You shouldn't paint the majority of Palestinians with the opinions of an extremist right-wing minority.

There were a lot factors involved other than the numbers you gave. I won't get into a point for point but the situations are not comparable, and yes that is partially the fault of the neighboring countries, not just Israel. Also, I am talking about today and the future, not 1948. Being stuck in 1948 won't help anything.

I am not opposed to the idea of resettlement in neighboring countries as a possible solution to Palestinian's plight. I am just saying it is easier said than done. A Palestinian living in the occupied territories today does not have not that option. So why should that person suffer from human rights abuses, today?

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White House declines Netanyahu request to meet with Obama [View all] DonViejo Sep 2012 OP

He shouldn't have criticized the US Thrill Sep 2012 #1

So foreign leaders are not allowed to criticize us anymore? totodeinhere Sep 2012 #24

Know whats bad precedent? Thrill Sep 2012 #30

"Foreign leaders injecting themselves into US presidential elections" is an old totodeinhere Sep 2012 #38

Churchill "actively campaigned for FDR in 1940"? thucythucy Sep 2012 #67

This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2012 #87

+1000 Katashi_itto Sep 2012 #95

No, only the ones taking so much from us. nt nanabugg Sep 2012 #33

That would be almost all of them. n/t totodeinhere Sep 2012 #36

What are you talking about? We don't roll out the red carpet when people shit on us, is all. MADem Sep 2012 #45

Foreign leaders that bite the hand that feeds them deserve to be shunned Suji to Seoul Sep 2012 #86

Damn straight! He wants to play that game. Hopefully he is out of luck getting a meeting Katashi_itto Sep 2012 #96

I agree whole heartedly texshelters Sep 2012 #109

If anyone criticizes us we should burn down their consolates 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #107

You can read this Reuters article at the following link without registering... Purveyor Sep 2012 #2

The White House is anti-Semetic Ezlivin Sep 2012 #3

You know there is a way to get Netty's attention. Do you know how they get the balls off a calf southernyankeebelle Sep 2012 #17

A bit harsh, that--just make noises about cutting the foreign aid/military sales, and that should MADem Sep 2012 #46

I know its harsh and I know it isn't going to happen. Light up I was only joking. southernyankeebelle Sep 2012 #72

time to cut bait Dkc05 Sep 2012 #40

I think Netanyahu just might have pissed off a few people in the White House. redgreenandblue Sep 2012 #4

finally. the tail no longer wags the dog. ChairmanAgnostic Sep 2012 #5

Bibi blew it a long time ago. Panasonic Sep 2012 #8

true. quite true. ChairmanAgnostic Sep 2012 #11

My thinking exactly! nt AverageJoe90 Sep 2012 #18

"if he is seen meddling in our politics, people will NOT take kindly to that," former9thward Sep 2012 #21

"where they can build housing for their population" R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2012 #25

If they are outside of Israel then I'm sure that country will take care of it. former9thward Sep 2012 #29

Occupied people seek voice from the world. nt nanabugg Sep 2012 #35

"I don't know what that country is." R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2012 #41

Is that your declaration or does any country in the world recognize "Palestine"? former9thward Sep 2012 #43

Israel certainly doesn't recognize Palestine, and that is sad. R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2012 #59

When you fight wars and lose them shit happens. former9thward Sep 2012 #65

Germany and Japan are now free Democratic societies Ash_F Sep 2012 #68

You are writing to a partisan on the subject. R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2012 #71

Maybe there is still hope for him yet. Ash_F Sep 2012 #73

There is always hope. R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2012 #74

Oh what a lovely picture you paint of post war Germany and Japan. former9thward Sep 2012 #102

The allies worked from the beginning to get axis nations back on their feet... Ash_F Sep 2012 #111

And yet illegal Israeli settlements still exist on Palestinian lands. R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2012 #113

I exprected the spin and you didn't fail in the delivery. R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2012 #69

google "Kaliningrad" n/t rayofreason Sep 2012 #83

Are you suggesting that the Israelis R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2012 #84

Kaliningrad... rayofreason Sep 2012 #88

but there is the magic word they negotiated with the Germans who gave it up willingly azurnoir Sep 2012 #90

"Germans...gave it up willingly" You have got to be joking/smoking. n/t rayofreason Sep 2012 #100

But the Palestinians are basically trapped where they are. Ash_F Sep 2012 #94

In 1948... rayofreason Sep 2012 #99

Until <blank>, there will be no peace. <- a common right-wing line Ash_F Sep 2012 #112

And the repeated lumps are that "illegal" settlements appear on Palestinian lands? R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2012 #106

If you believe the total BS in your post cpwm17 Sep 2012 #81

Same old repeated lies about the "Palestinians [being] pawns of the Arabs." The Stranger Sep 2012 #91

The rest of the world knows it as the occupied territories. Comrade Grumpy Sep 2012 #61

Really? former9thward Sep 2012 #63

130 countries recognize Palestine as a state. Comrade Grumpy Sep 2012 #115

I wonder where the capital is? former9thward Sep 2012 #116

So you then support a "one state solution?" cpwm17 Sep 2012 #42

The Palestinians do not recognize the right of Israel to exist. former9thward Sep 2012 #44

why should they Dkc05 Sep 2012 #51

Well they don't have to. former9thward Sep 2012 #54

Whst is your stake in this? Harry_Scrote Sep 2012 #80

The state of Israel pays me $1000 for every post I do on DU. former9thward Sep 2012 #104

Chicken and Egg Ash_F Sep 2012 #62

It is already one state cpwm17 Sep 2012 #82

Yes--that "Palestinian Army" that the Palestinians don't have will take care of it. MADem Sep 2012 #47

Jimmy Carter deviated from either party's position on Israel long ago. former9thward Sep 2012 #52

His efforts were a foundation, not a conclusion. nt MADem Sep 2012 #77

He who pays the piper calls the tune? hedgehog Sep 2012 #26

Then I am sure you will have no problem having China dictate our policies. former9thward Sep 2012 #28

We can just print hundreds of billions and pay them back if they insist--don't think they'd go for MADem Sep 2012 #48

Oh I think they do lead it. former9thward Sep 2012 #53

Silent? Really? Perhaps you aren't listening. MADem Sep 2012 #79

Wow what an expertly crafted statement... Ash_F Sep 2012 #55

I lost count of the strawmen in your post. former9thward Sep 2012 #58

I am not anti-Israel, I am anti right-wing ideaology. Ash_F Sep 2012 #64

I agree, and we shouldn't be giving them any aid either.. snooper2 Sep 2012 #98

I would have no problem cutting aid to Israel all the other countries in the region. former9thward Sep 2012 #105

Wow, I never expected to see a supporter of GENOCIDE on DU. Odin2005 Sep 2012 #57

Supporter of Israel is now equal to genocide. former9thward Sep 2012 #60

You support the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians from their own land... Odin2005 Sep 2012 #75

The US is not sanctioning nor threatening Israel. David__77 Sep 2012 #70

The White House did NOT decline the meeting - there is a confict in schedules. Big difference! n/t Tx4obama Sep 2012 #6

But this is the spin that the RW wants to push to turn off the Jewish vote for Obama. nt nanabugg Sep 2012 #37

Not being fooled, they'll go at least 80% Dem /nt Ash_F Sep 2012 #56

Good, finally a president who will stand up to this thug tularetom Sep 2012 #7

The story is wrong leftynyc Sep 2012 #10

No the story is right Obama will not be meeting Netanyahu but one of Obama's 'underlings' will azurnoir Sep 2012 #22

The implication of the story is WRONG leftynyc Sep 2012 #93

yes the White house is now denying that there was a request for a meeting azurnoir Sep 2012 #97

The Mini-Mayor of Teheran has plenty to atone for, though I doubt he'll use the opportunity! nt MADem Sep 2012 #49

Why does Obama hate the Jews???? JoePhilly Sep 2012 #9

Cut all military (WELFARE) payments to Israel. penndragon69 Sep 2012 #12

I'm afraid too many people do not understand that personality type! So they don't believe you. patrice Sep 2012 #14

Nice thought but DonCoquixote Sep 2012 #16

Saudi Arabia plays a "both sides against the middle" game MADem Sep 2012 #50

Watch Congress continue to approve more support than we give to the entire continent of Africa. nt patrice Sep 2012 #13

Not true! Nancy Waterman Sep 2012 #15

The meeting will happen. iandhr Sep 2012 #19

who will in your opinion "saving face" and why? n/t azurnoir Sep 2012 #23

Bibi will try to save face with the President. iandhr Sep 2012 #76

Bibi seems to have placed his eggs in Rmoneys basket azurnoir Sep 2012 #89

Netanyahu will not be at the UN the same day Obama will be. Tx4obama Sep 2012 #20

Just made NBC Nightly and it is about all rw hateradio are talking about this evening. Now I wonder Purveyor Sep 2012 #27

Tell me bibi didn't do this on purpose so they could put some distance WCGreen Sep 2012 #31

I'm pretty certain of it, indeed. Bastards. eom Purveyor Sep 2012 #34

All Netanyahu is going to do is to make more threats if Obama doesn't attack Iran. no_hypocrisy Sep 2012 #32

Time for a new friend over there Dkc05 Sep 2012 #39

The hell with Israel. Stop subsidizing them with my tax dollors. Hotler Sep 2012 #66

I totally agree with you, Hotler Carolina Sep 2012 #118

This has already been debunked bluestateguy Sep 2012 #78

New: No meeting requested Tx4obama Sep 2012 #85

So basically JustAnotherGen Sep 2012 #101

Another example of how left the media is .99center Sep 2012 #92

Good. nt ladjf Sep 2012 #103

This story is a lie. Zoeisright Sep 2012 #108

Right- Iran and Syria have to be dealt with also underpants Sep 2012 #120

Good on Obama! lanlady Sep 2012 #110

This was a Political stunt.......... SILVER__FOX52 Sep 2012 #114

About Bloody Time! Hab Habit Sep 2012 #117

Good. Now cut off the financial and military aid we give them. Lil Missy Sep 2012 #119