Latest Breaking News

rpannier

(24,915 posts)

8. Disagree

Tue Mar 19, 2019, 08:17 AM

Mar 2019

They got in fraudulently. Whether they knew or not, they still should not have gotten in
Bad precedent to say, "Well they didn't know..."
1. Because it opens the door for future abuse with the parents claiming their kids didn't know
2. They wouldn't have gotten in originally. So, they are not entitled to anything

Edit history

Please sign in to view edit histories.

Recommendations

0 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

96 replies

= new reply since forum marked as read

Highlight:

USC students linked to admissions scandal can't enroll in classes, get transcripts, university says [View all] nitpicker Mar 2019 OP

immediate expullsion...if awarded diplomas, revoke the diplomas beachbum bob Mar 2019 #1

did they do that to all the athletes that graduated on the sanctioned sports programs? CreekDog Mar 2019 #89

good move vlyons Mar 2019 #2

Closing the barn door after the horse has bolted. bernie59 Mar 2019 #3

If the students did the work and got their grades legitimately then I think .... Botany Mar 2019 #4

Nope.... LovingA2andMI Mar 2019 #33

If they did the work, they deserve the credits and the transcripts obamanut2012 Mar 2019 #5

If they got in fraudulently they should get nothing rpannier Mar 2019 #7

Even the ones who didn't know? jberryhill Mar 2019 #10

Yes, it's fruit from the poisoned tree.... getagrip_already Mar 2019 #24

Yes they should rpannier Mar 2019 #26

So the Dreamers should be deported? jberryhill Mar 2019 #45

Straw man argument sdfernando Mar 2019 #49

Every argument being made is the same as conservatives do toward the DACA kids Blue_Adept Mar 2019 #51

I replied to your point in your other reply rpannier Mar 2019 #53

I thought of that treestar Mar 2019 #64

The majority of those that are here "illegally" are overstayed visas and the like Blue_Adept Mar 2019 #65

But are they congruent with Dreamers? treestar Mar 2019 #66

"A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds..." LanternWaste Mar 2019 #70

Ah, speaking of hobgoblins jberryhill Mar 2019 #72

That is a ridiculous comparison. fleur-de-lisa Mar 2019 #74

+1000 nt Javaman Mar 2019 #13

What're your views on DACA? Blue_Adept Mar 2019 #27

What about the kids from Louisiana who got into Ivy League schools. Igel Mar 2019 #76

Absolutely.. Maxheader Mar 2019 #15

They need to be booted out before end of semester. Honeycombe8 Mar 2019 #17

no, no credit for grades earned... getagrip_already Mar 2019 #25

I agree. Ill gotten gains obtained through fraud. nt Honeycombe8 Mar 2019 #29

tuition refunded then? CreekDog Mar 2019 #87

How can we trust that they did the work? tulipsandroses Mar 2019 #35

we really should stop saying he went to "Wharton" ProfessorPlum Mar 2019 #62

Point taken tulipsandroses Mar 2019 #78

neither do I ProfessorPlum Mar 2019 #82

yeah if they passed the classes without cheating then they get the credit CreekDog Mar 2019 #90

If the kids actually did the work Sgent Mar 2019 #6

Disagree rpannier Mar 2019 #8

"Whether they knew or not, they still should not have gotten in" jberryhill Mar 2019 #11

Well done Lucky Luciano Mar 2019 #12

They are 17 and over. Not 10. Honeycombe8 Mar 2019 #18

How could the students not know? SomewhereInTheMiddle Mar 2019 #34

I agree. Honeycombe8 Mar 2019 #44

Depends on the situation Pachamama Mar 2019 #83

Interesting. SomewhereInTheMiddle Mar 2019 #84

welcome to DU gopiscrap Mar 2019 #86

Thanks SomewhereInTheMiddle Mar 2019 #95

Well, that is a different situation. Apples and starvation Farmer-Rick Mar 2019 #21

The difference is.... LovingA2andMI Mar 2019 #38

Oh, a personal dig, how nice jberryhill Mar 2019 #46

Except..... LovingA2andMI Mar 2019 #54

It's a fair question rpannier Mar 2019 #52

That sounds much like a conservative view of DACA... Blue_Adept Mar 2019 #28

It's the same logic - they can't admit it jberryhill Mar 2019 #48

Pretty much. Blue_Adept Mar 2019 #50

I find it interesting that you equate rich privilege with people trying to save their own lives. nt Javaman Mar 2019 #57

Hey, according to folks in this thread, they broke the law. So throw the book at them. Blue_Adept Mar 2019 #58

because everything is a nail, right? nt Javaman Mar 2019 #59

That seems to be the case here Blue_Adept Mar 2019 #60

wow, just wow. Javaman Mar 2019 #63

No one is "equating" those two things jberryhill Mar 2019 #61

I don't think it is that stark a difference treestar Mar 2019 #67

Because if they don't punish the kids TexasBushwhacker Mar 2019 #9

I wouldn't call it punishment. It's rectifying a wrong. Honeycombe8 Mar 2019 #20

Or like deporting a Dreamer jberryhill Mar 2019 #56

Dreamers were young children. Not bordering on adulthood who didn't know they weren't born here. Honeycombe8 Mar 2019 #79

This message was self-deleted by its author CreekDog Mar 2019 #88

that's like letting a bank robber go because he used the money to build an orphanage. nt Javaman Mar 2019 #14

Lets pretend Sgent Mar 2019 #30

the orphanage should be sold or given over to the state and the robber goes to jail. Javaman Mar 2019 #55

And what, exactly, would you do to the orphans? jberryhill Mar 2019 #47

They need to be booted out. Period. nt Honeycombe8 Mar 2019 #16

Yes.... LovingA2andMI Mar 2019 #39

Sounds like an interesting potential lawsuit madville Mar 2019 #19

Anyone who is 17 and older, knew. Honeycombe8 Mar 2019 #22

No, their tuition should not be returned. Honeycombe8 Mar 2019 #32

and you're drawing on your experience in contract law? CreekDog Mar 2019 #93

I'm drawing on my experience in common sense. Their tuition, based on fraud, will not be returned. Honeycombe8 Mar 2019 #96

If they were 18 and signed fraudulent documents knowingly SHRED Mar 2019 #23

Actually.... LovingA2andMI Mar 2019 #43

This is the same principal as not using nazi "medical" reasearch from holocaust camps..... getagrip_already Mar 2019 #31

I think a better analogy is a bank robber having his car confiscated by police. Honeycombe8 Mar 2019 #41

Big cheaters always win. There will be no punishment for the super rich. nt NCjack Mar 2019 #36

The university has got to be wondering how deep this goes. Lars39 Mar 2019 #37

I posted my reply before seeing yours. You and I are thinking the same thing tulipsandroses Mar 2019 #42

I think more investigation needs to be done tulipsandroses Mar 2019 #40

I Can't Believe RobinA Mar 2019 #68

Hate for which demographic here? on rich people or white people? The kids or...? Apple Fritter Mar 2019 #69

Good... Blue_Tires Mar 2019 #71

What happened to "Due Process" for these students. mackdaddy Mar 2019 #73

No longer a liberal value jberryhill Mar 2019 #75

Question: how many years back are they going to review? Miigwech Mar 2019 #77

Investigated for what ? MichMan Mar 2019 #80

USC was part a participant in this as well. bernie59 Mar 2019 #81

This message was self-deleted by its author geralmar Mar 2019 #85

I look at all the posts in the thread trying to figure out how hard they can punish the students CreekDog Mar 2019 #91

You have a point Hekate Mar 2019 #92

A lot of meanness in these threads, too obamanut2012 Mar 2019 #94