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Trump signs executive order on free speech on college campuses [View all] mahatmakanejeeves Mar 2019 OP

Be careful what you sign executive orders for Chakaconcarne Mar 2019 #1

Yup. I'm expecting invites to go out to Louis Farrakhan shortly. OneBro Mar 2019 #31

I would travel to Liberty University to see an LGBT pride parade there! Initech Mar 2019 #42

I hope this happens ASAP. rainin Mar 2019 #76

Trump To Sign Toothless Executive Order On Campus Free Speech In Bow To Far-Right Student Activists mahatmakanejeeves Mar 2019 #2

My thoughts too. But should it / will it be challenged in court? Sets precedent, challenge or none. Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2019 #7

Screw that, I say we start messing with it. Initech Mar 2019 #10

What an unreadable hairball of words. C_U_L8R Mar 2019 #3

See post #2, spoiler alert: No. DRoseDARs Mar 2019 #6

Satanists at Liberty university? Itchinjim Mar 2019 #4

If they take any federal research funds, hell yeah :-) The Mouth Mar 2019 #14

I hope Louis Farrakhan goes to Liberty University. walkingman Mar 2019 #28

Proud Boys & Identity Evropa is "American Values" EarthFirst Mar 2019 #5

On a university they should be expressed A Former Republican Mar 2019 #18

Can you specify what "can be shown to be Nazi bullshit" means? ehrnst Mar 2019 #46

I did not say rally, I said present their ideas A Former Republican Mar 2019 #60

You didn't specify what form "presenting their ideas" means. ehrnst Mar 2019 #69

I'd make the argument that they should be allowed to speak for one simple reason beyond free speech. Jedi Guy Mar 2019 #121

This is worriesome: NastyRiffraff Mar 2019 #8

yes, and I doubt it would stand on free speech grounds. sfwriter Mar 2019 #21

It's already happening. STEM STEM STEM Politicub Mar 2019 #24

I'm a historian at a major university. a la izquierda Mar 2019 #57

I think immediately, a pro-choice women's group, or another liberal org should start booking talks LiberalLovinLug Mar 2019 #9

Those are generally private universities. Socal31 Mar 2019 #12

What counts is whether they receive federal research money or grants. sinkingfeeling Mar 2019 #38

It addresses private universities separately. Socal31 Mar 2019 #39

'Not enough ewww in the world for this' Gothmog Mar 2019 #11

My freeze peach neckbeards everywhere rejoice. RhodeIslandOne Mar 2019 #13

It may run afoul of state statutes regulating hate speech at state universities. Ford_Prefect Mar 2019 #15

"Hate speech," whatever that is, is Constitutionally protected. mahatmakanejeeves Mar 2019 #51

Several campus situations I am aware of regulate according to intimidation and behavior rather Ford_Prefect Mar 2019 #56

I've been online hate speech is very toxic JonLP24 Mar 2019 #100

There is a difference between teaching the history of hate speech and genocide ehrnst Mar 2019 #111

What I was mainly addressing was "hate speech" JonLP24 Mar 2019 #114

Got it. ehrnst Mar 2019 #117

ALL SPEECH AND IDEAS SHOULD BE ALLOWED IN UNIVERSITIES A Former Republican Mar 2019 #16

So, I should be able to stand in the middle of campus and advocate stuffing Jews into ovens? ZZenith Mar 2019 #19

Yes, say what you will A Former Republican Mar 2019 #33

So you think a university should host a KKK rally to 'test' those ideas ehrnst Mar 2019 #50

It's bigger and more insidious than that. Hard-core right wing Hortensis Mar 2019 #99

After people decide how crazy a person is, what next? rzemanfl Mar 2019 #97

Incitement to riot or fighting words exboyfil Mar 2019 #54

I agree 100%, ideas not actions A Former Republican Mar 2019 #62

Convincing this board that the pie exboyfil Mar 2019 #63

Yes, we no longer believe in talking with each other A Former Republican Mar 2019 #65

Speak for yourself. ehrnst Mar 2019 #67

I said the board in general exboyfil Mar 2019 #68

You said "convincing this board" of which I am posting on. (nt) ehrnst Mar 2019 #70

While I don't agree with him, I at least have some respect for Ben Shapiro. Jedi Guy Mar 2019 #122

By the way, welcome to DU, where attempting to herd cats is not just a figure of speech, it's mahatmakanejeeves Mar 2019 #78

Actions that incite, like yelling "Jews will not replace us" in a march, in unison? ehrnst Mar 2019 #118

Nazis should not be allowed in universities Politicub Mar 2019 #25

And who is to decide what is acceptable and what is not A Former Republican Mar 2019 #35

As a society, we have decided that nazis are unacceptable Politicub Mar 2019 #36

You know not of what you speak. ZZenith Mar 2019 #44

I'm thinking that it's not about 'knowing' about a topic ehrnst Mar 2019 #53

Do you work at a university? A University has the right to choose who speaks at the University, ehrnst Mar 2019 #45

"why should a University give a climate change denier, or other person who devalues science and...." mahatmakanejeeves Mar 2019 #58

Yep, but there are those here who are defending the ideas in it ehrnst Mar 2019 #80

That is just factually incorrect. Socal31 Mar 2019 #61

It's factually correct, and I did read the article. ehrnst Mar 2019 #71

Public Universities host speakers that are not aligned with their politics. Socal31 Mar 2019 #73

I didn't say that they didn't, shouldn't, or couldn't choose to. ehrnst Mar 2019 #75

They are required to, as stated in the EO, which changed nothing. Socal31 Mar 2019 #77

This is the post that you are refuting as non-factual. ehrnst Mar 2019 #82

I'll let the professionals clarify my point. Socal31 Mar 2019 #84

Perhaps this expert might clear up your misunderstanding of what I stated... ehrnst Mar 2019 #85

I have yet to see anyone argue that hate groups can rally. Socal31 Mar 2019 #86

This is a long thread, and you likely haven't read all the posts ehrnst Mar 2019 #87

The university does not have to endorse an idea A Former Republican Mar 2019 #64

Strawman and moving the goalposts.... ehrnst Mar 2019 #66

Absolutism for its own sake is wholly irrational. LanternWaste Mar 2019 #81

This message was self-deleted by its author ehrnst Mar 2019 #52

I GUESS USING ALL CAPS MAKES YOUR INTERPRETATION THE ONLY VALID ONE. ehrnst Mar 2019 #48

I was just shouting the truth as I saw it A Former Republican Mar 2019 #72

So you're not going to answer the question about ehrnst Mar 2019 #74

In answer to your question, you will not like it A Former Republican Mar 2019 #88

So, does that mean yes, you think that universities haven't changed at all since you went to one ehrnst Mar 2019 #89

I do not know if Universities have changed, A Former Republican Mar 2019 #92

The term "freedom" has also undergone a change in the last 50 years, as well as "speech." ehrnst Mar 2019 #94

Now that we are talking we can reach understanding A Former Republican Mar 2019 #95

So let me get this straight: harassment doesn't exist unless the target chooses to be offended? ehrnst Mar 2019 #98

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So you place the responsibility on the target, and not the harrasser. ehrnst Mar 2019 #102

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If it fat jokes didn't affect you negatively, why would you report it as "inappropriate?" ehrnst Mar 2019 #113

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Do you think that Christine Blasey Ford was "choosing" to believe she was being targeted ehrnst Mar 2019 #104

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Words are actions, too. What about leaving pornography on someone's desk? (nt) ehrnst Mar 2019 #108

Do you think that Anita Hill was responsible for continued harassment by Clarence Thomas ehrnst Mar 2019 #105

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What is a WO? ehrnst Mar 2019 #110

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But isn't that supressing "free speech" to report someone when you could just ignore their words? ehrnst Mar 2019 #116

The world will never know! *POOF!* NurseJackie Mar 2019 #123

Hey Welcome to DU A Former Republican 👋 irisblue Mar 2019 #91

Sorry, I will try to be more precise in my tense usage A Former Republican Mar 2019 #93

You were fine with your tense usage - that quote did not imply present tense. bernie59 Mar 2019 #125

I never knew in my all 70 years that one could "volunteer for the draft." rzemanfl Mar 2019 #96

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I cannot help but compare your experience with that of a friend of mine. rzemanfl Mar 2019 #112

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"to enhance the quality of postsecondary education by making it more affordable" DesertRat Mar 2019 #17

All I saw was reporting annually on data to show students how expensive their education will be. n/t Beartracks Mar 2019 #27

This is garbage. First of what if someone tries to go to a Christian college that has accepted cstanleytech Mar 2019 #20

Nothing says anyone has to listen to their bullshit... jmowreader Mar 2019 #22

Just... gross Gothmog Mar 2019 #23

Oh, god. He's smelling her. htuttle Mar 2019 #30

Yes he was-this is so gross Gothmog Mar 2019 #41

Well here's another mess he got the RETHUGS in bluestarone Mar 2019 #26

Looks like we're going to get some Zampolit or Zhengwei on campus htuttle Mar 2019 #29

What about free speech on dairy farms? Sanity Claws Mar 2019 #32

I thought Trump had taken the knife to cut out unnecessary government legislation. Doodley Mar 2019 #34

The takeaway line is this: procon Mar 2019 #37

Yep, along with discouraging those whose parents can't pay tuition in full from enrolling ehrnst Mar 2019 #49

Conservatives should be careful what they wish for. Nitram Mar 2019 #40

Exactly! Don't get mad, get even! Initech Mar 2019 #43

This executive order may not apply to Liberty U. JustABozoOnThisBus Mar 2019 #124

You're right, I meant to write "pro-choice." Nitram Mar 2019 #126

This is a clear attempt to discourage attendance at universities. This is much like ehrnst Mar 2019 #47

should allow liberal speakers at conservative schools unfettered access too.... beachbum bob Mar 2019 #55

Behold the words of Glorious Leader! mahatmakanejeeves Mar 2019 #59

Who gets to decide? underpants Mar 2019 #79

the freedom for violent criminal gangs to recruit on campus DBoon Mar 2019 #83

There is no way that idiot came up with that himself. Sounds like a Stephen Miller, Steve King, GemDigger Mar 2019 #90