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In reply to the discussion: Jussie Smollett charges dropped [View all]jberryhill
(62,444 posts)128. Whenever the prosecution and defense are ready to sign off
Look, newspapers report things (a) that reporters observe, and (b) that people tell them. If I say, "cats can grow wings and fly", the newspaper will accurately report that I said, "cats can grow wings and fly". The fact that a newspaper accurately reports I said it, does not mean that cats will be able to grow wings and fly.
Now, if a newspaper reporter is reporting a direct observation that cats are growing wings and flying, then that's quite another situation, and one might want to look for corroborating independent reports.
In this context, a newspaper reporter is not going to have access to a sealed deal, and so is going to be completely dependent on what the parties have to say to the reporter. Often, the content of public statements is also part of the deal. Maybe it is, maybe it isn't, maybe both parties have an interest in Smollet mitigating and repairing the damage to his career due to potential ongoing obligations. Who knows? I don't, and newspaper reporters certainly don't. Anything that that Smollet's legal team - the people who are handsomely paid to make Smollet look as good as possible - is going to be as favorable as possible to Smollet, and is not going to violate the terms, if any, governing what they can say. But there is no, none, zip, nada obligation on anyone's part to tell reporters the underlying or complete truth of the situation.
You might as well ask how often or how quickly the prosecution, after extensive investigative work and filing charges, simply just walks away from a case without an explanation or a deal. The answer to that one is also "not bloody often".
At bottom, this is a non-violent offense in which the alleged offender presents zero risk to the community and zero risk of re-offending. It would be a good idea if supposed "liberals" on DU got past their fixations on punitive justice, and got back to thinking about what the purpose of the criminal justice system is supposed to be.
And, look, if someone wants to believe that the purpose of the criminal justice system should be meting out punishment or vindication in response to internet poutrage, they are entitled to that opinion. Most professionals tend to think in terms of what best serves the broader public interest in safety and security.
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Why is his bond being forfeited if the charges are dropped and he made all appearances?
33taw
Mar 2019
#2
Exactly. If the cops were wrong, they would return bond money before being sued.
oldsoftie
Mar 2019
#19
The damage he did to people who are actual victims. He's made it even harder to come forward.
oldsoftie
Mar 2019
#96
Real PUNISHMENT makes others think twice before trying to pull the same stunt.
oldsoftie
Mar 2019
#101
"imaginary damage"? You cant see how faking a homophobic, racist attack is harmful??
oldsoftie
Mar 2019
#113
I agree. I only wish less wealthy and/or known folks would get similar treatment.
Hoyt
Mar 2019
#110
Well, she was jailed for a time and ordered to undergo psychiatric counseling. Not sure what your
Hoyt
Mar 2019
#134
How many times were the charges suddenly dropped less than a month after indictment?
kcr
Mar 2019
#115
So, it's your claim that the DA is saying the charges are dropped, but they're really not?
kcr
Mar 2019
#122
Probably not. The court works thousands of cases regardless of who are the parties/defendant.
33taw
Mar 2019
#9
Really? Based on what statistic? Bonds a forfeited for failure to appear or comply w/ something.
33taw
Mar 2019
#32
I just can't believe so many people seem bewildered by this utterly normal thing
jberryhill
Mar 2019
#39
Yes, that is true. In state courts it is a higher percent that do not go to trial.
33taw
Mar 2019
#49
Too bad they aren't the prosecutors going for the trump family, bc yes, thats how it usually happens
Chin music
Mar 2019
#77
Under a "normal deferred prosecution deal" do they immediately drop all charges?
pnwmom
Mar 2019
#41
this almost sounds like a set up by one of those rw media management assholes like
certainot
Mar 2019
#7
That's what is being discussed now, apparently the judge (not confirmed yet) felt....
George II
Mar 2019
#15
Chicago Police Superintendent "Furious" about this decision...per CBS2 News Chicago
AKing
Mar 2019
#17
Damn near spit out my milkshake as i scrolled down. Really, just missed it. Thats hilarious.
oldsoftie
Mar 2019
#74
I dont prosecute crime either. But i know Smollett & his lawyers have lied. The mayor & chief havent
oldsoftie
Mar 2019
#145
Was William Barr his attorney? Charges being dropped all over theis great land under the new AG!
BamaRefugee
Mar 2019
#26
The case is "sealed"...Prosecutors not commenting...Smollet forfeits his bond even though charges...
AKing
Mar 2019
#27
On twitter they are trying to blame Obama for putting pressure on the DA office to drop charges nt
maryellen99
Mar 2019
#40
I checked. There is truth to it, but its OLD truth. He donated to a PAC backing her in '16, not NOW
oldsoftie
Mar 2019
#102
When those people stub their big toe they blame Obama or Clinton for it.
Sapient Donkey
Mar 2019
#62
As poster above says, it's a "plea deal in disguise." I'm OK with that in this case, just wish the
Hoyt
Mar 2019
#59
Chicago prosecutor who dropped Jussie Smollett charges: 'We didn't exonerate him'
AKing
Mar 2019
#65
Looks like Smollett's attys are just like trumps; announcing things that arent true.
oldsoftie
Mar 2019
#71