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In reply to the discussion: Progressives Support Shoring Up ACA Before Tackling Medicare For All [View all]ehrnst
(32,640 posts)60. No, I'm not seeing #26 telling the poster that "they just misunderstood their life"
or anything like that.
Look, my point is that when a poster states that the ACA has been horrible for them/their family, it really isn't asking so much to acknowledge the truth of their situation.
If by, 'the truth' of their situation is that "the ACA is a failure for EVERYONE with a chronic illness, because of their personal experience," that's not going to be acknowleged, because it's not true.
Did you see the statement that #26 is responding to?
"The ACA is horrible for anyone that is or has a family member with a chronic illness"
#26 rebuts that as a universal experience of people with chronic illnesses since the ACA passed, because they have health care now that they didn't have access to prior to the ACA. Cha says: " Nobody is saying it's the endgame. These "progressives" know that..and want to strengthen it for those who are being helped by it.
Right wingers whose premiums got raised at all howled that the ACA is the reason that they rose, even if they rose less under the ACA than in previous years. They, too "wanted acknowledgement of the truth of their situation" which was that "the ACA was the reason they were paying more than last year in premiums." Any attempt to tell them that not only would their premiums have gone up even higher without the ACA, but that way more people were being covered who hadn't been before, so yes it was progress, would be as unhappy as the poster who is also blaming the ACA on continuing problems within our system that were worse before the ACA.
"I hear you and I sympathize" is a better first response.
LBN is a discussion board, not a support group. The support groups are listed near the bottom on the left navigation, just below "sports." The poster knows this and has been attempting to undermine support the ACA on other threads, trying to push the false narrative that shoring up the ACA is somehow an obstacle to MFA, and Democratic leaders are secretly meeting with and pandering to the private insurance execs, and it's corruption that causes them to 'choose' to try to repair the ACA, rather than demanding the politically impossible at this point in history Medicare for All.
Somehow, I don't think that the poster is here simply seeking sympathy and emotional validation.
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Progressives Support Shoring Up ACA Before Tackling Medicare For All [View all]
George II
Mar 2019
OP
My analogy yesterday somewhere was the Empire State Building was built first....
George II
Mar 2019
#7
empire state had a blueprint of exactly what the finished product would be from day one nt
msongs
Mar 2019
#12
Yes, and it was completed ahead of schedule and at 1/3 BELOW projected budget....
George II
Mar 2019
#13
This is great. I thought you said you're not a football fan! Excellent description of the process:
George II
Mar 2019
#10
He has COMPLETELY disqualified himself. He should just drop out now and go back to Vermont.
NurseJackie
Mar 2019
#41
The ACA is horrible for anyone that is or has a family member with a chronic illness
MooDrew
Mar 2019
#17
Few people truly understand how Medicare works and who does a big part of the administration...
George II
Mar 2019
#84
Where it isn't working is in states where the Governors refused to expand Medicaid...
George II
Mar 2019
#89
The ACA was kneecapped by the GOP and SCOTUS. Dems are listening to you, the others are not. (nt)
ehrnst
Mar 2019
#45
No, I'm not seeing #26 telling the poster that "they just misunderstood their life"
ehrnst
Mar 2019
#60
So you misrepresented a basic detail. Not Nancy Pelosi, an 'aide.' Second: Ryan Grim...
ehrnst
Mar 2019
#71
Strawman much? I wasn't the one who said he was Nancy Pelosi. That's a pretty big "detail."
ehrnst
Mar 2019
#73
The Young Turks and the Intercept? Yes, very objective news sources, Cenk Uygur and Glenn Greenwald
George II
Mar 2019
#97
"Democrats were taking a 'L.O.V.E.' approach to health care -- 'Let Other Versions Exist.'"
betsuni
Mar 2019
#14
Excellent. We all want Universal Healthcare. Republicans don't. Americans do.
GulfCoast66
Mar 2019
#16
Here are all the details, including summaries, the text of the comprehensive bill,
lapucelle
Mar 2019
#33
We have more details about "shoring up the ACA" than we do about "Medicare for All".
George II
Mar 2019
#49
No such ting as SHORING UP.. republicans are trying to kill it as it lives... Democrats could do ...
NotHardly
Mar 2019
#30
I wonder if those who are against the legislation have bothered to do any research
lapucelle
Mar 2019
#36
Yes there is. Those who haven't, need to actually read the propsed legislation.
lapucelle
Mar 2019
#35
So what will people do during the time it will take to replace Gorsuch, Kavanah, Alito, Thomas
ehrnst
Mar 2019
#47
The ACA was tough to pass in the first place, but it's THERE now! Do you really think...
George II
Mar 2019
#48
If one's car has a flat tire, you replace it. You don't leave it by the side of the road and
ehrnst
Mar 2019
#62
Hey, a little off topic, but when I was in college I had no money so bought "junkers" to drive...
George II
Mar 2019
#93
Medicare for all is just one declaration of a national emergency away thanks to the Repugnants
cstanleytech
Mar 2019
#69
What really gets me is that the repugs and rump constantly attempt to shut down the ...
SWBTATTReg
Mar 2019
#78
George you cut off your text right before Bernie's quote.Why did you omit it?
Power 2 the People
Mar 2019
#80
That's the answer. If you don't think it's the answer, well what else can I say?
George II
Mar 2019
#96
Its all symbolic and manuevering for 2020 elections as democrats have zero ability to do
beachbum bob
Mar 2019
#102