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In reply to the discussion: WikiLeaks' Julian Assange says US gave 'tacit approval' to embassy attacks [View all]freshwest
(53,661 posts)There is no equivalency here. A mob does not ask permission and is largely unidenified as they act. The parties involved are not equal in power, or they would not be rioting.
Everything going on in London is being hyped in the news since the UK and the USA are still *superpowers* and are arguing with a smaller but still impressive power, a *nation.* Ecaudor is standing on a point of law. That narrow point is being respected, despite all claims otherwise, or this matter would have been resolved in a violent way some weeks ago.
Mobs do not rise up from a position of power or they would not use their crude methods. Those with power don't riot, they have bombers, tanks, missiles and other high tech weaponry that will take out any mob. This is not the same thing. There is a reason that people in Libya are pleading for forgiveness. The world knows what a *superpower* can do to them. They are justly concerned.
I don't think Assange is in control of Wikileaks. I don't think Wikileaks is in control of who is posting what is said on Twitter or most of what they distribute at all.
I do think Twitter is in the hands of TPTB and nothing is private. That these shows of outrage are all manufactured and the information is already in the hands of the operators of Twitter who will giggle as they turn the information over to whatever government wants it, when presented with enough paper to calm the masses down.
Most communication is wireless, and it is a utopian view that this is protected by law, when the technology is there to pick it up and record it and can be used and abused by all of the corporations, governments and individuals, by hackers for political purposes, theft by criminals, etc. It's in the air, it belongs to no one and everyone.
So we have another media story to generate arguments about something we have no control over, but sure as hell wish and pray we did. Wishing and praying won't change the ownership or operation of these systems.
We use them at the sufferance of the plutocrats who own social networking systems. It is offered 'free' to mine data and make profit. They are not there for altruistic, freedom of speech and thought reasons.
Those who use these networks not protected by the First Amendment, the Universal Declaration of Human Rights or a privacy law.
First, all users volunteered and gave permission to join. Second, the owners of the technology and businesses don't let any kind of law or regulation get in their way. All fines are taken into account as a cost of doing business.
We are entering into a technocracy we have empowered, and it has nothing to do with privacy or civil rights. This is just a diversion. I might change my mind tomorrow. Sorry if that offends, but I don't think this is legitimate.