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navarth

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109. On the contrary

Fri Sep 14, 2012, 11:12 AM

Sep 2012

none of what you have described would explain the overwhelming amount of carpet-bombing threads attacking Assange. If I thought like you do (which I don't) I would probably ignore him or place a snarky comment once in a while. Maybe I would say I don't care what happens to him.

What's going on here is way out of proportion IMO. Hence my curiosity.

"....think it is possible that Assange is a multi-faceted person capable of both good and evil -- not some persecuted superhero" That's it? "think it's possible"?? That does not justify the amount of hate I'm seeing. I remain curious about real motives.

And for the record I don't think he's a super hero. But he is persecuted. Just sayin'. And I don't think his Libya statement is ludicrous. I don't care if he has a giant ego. Please demonstrate for me where he's hurt innocent people; I've yet to see any proof. I have an open mind.

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WikiLeaks' Julian Assange says US gave 'tacit approval' to embassy attacks [View all] struggle4progress Sep 2012 OP

Did he just join the Republican party? gateley Sep 2012 #1

Unfortunately, it isn't a stretch. JDPriestly Sep 2012 #8

Very well stated. dixiegrrrrl Sep 2012 #29

You know, you're right. And after reading your post, I agree. gateley Sep 2012 #32

You seem to have lost sight of the entire charade. randome Sep 2012 #33

Uh....... Wild Thing Sep 2012 #36

well, that is one point of view mitchtv Sep 2012 #49

"His work for Wikileaks has nothing to do with that." Yeah, sure. Comrade Grumpy Sep 2012 #57

If the women's claims are true, he's a rapist, not a boorish lover. pnwmom Sep 2012 #79

So the entire Military Industrial Complex goes after an alleged rapist. navarth Sep 2012 #103

Where is this MIC you speak of? randome Sep 2012 #106

Do you need to see warships as proof? navarth Sep 2012 #110

What he and Wikileaks proved to us all is that... randome Sep 2012 #111

I think the terminology 'conspiracy theory' is navarth Sep 2012 #112

Speaking only for myself, I find the subject fascinating. randome Sep 2012 #114

No, just the Swedish justice system. n/t pnwmom Sep 2012 #107

and you know this absolutely? navarth Sep 2012 #113

I know it just as absolutely as you "know" pnwmom Sep 2012 #116

okay then, in other words, navarth Sep 2012 #119

I don't put Obama and Bush in the same category of trustworthiness. pnwmom Sep 2012 #123

+1000. nt awoke_in_2003 Sep 2012 #38

Post removed Post removed Sep 2012 #83

This post was alerted on! Tick Tock! ohiosmith Sep 2012 #93

What a mzmolly Sep 2012 #2

Sorry. Socal31 Sep 2012 #3

Good point. Dems to Win Sep 2012 #75

Jumped...the...shark n/t orwell Sep 2012 #4

Short simple and to the point. Agreed. Love your user name -- when I sign up for a grocery store Dems to Win Sep 2012 #72

oh ffs, not this shit again. Joe Shlabotnik Sep 2012 #5

A big ditto to your post Joe! SoapBox Sep 2012 #6

I've been cautious in my judgment of Assange davidthegnome Sep 2012 #7

I disagree. He is just pointing out that the US should do unto others as it would have others JDPriestly Sep 2012 #9

I agree with the idea of a universal code davidthegnome Sep 2012 #12

EXACTLY!!! SkyDaddy7 Sep 2012 #31

Good response, indeed. I support universal principles, but I have no respect for Assange Dems to Win Sep 2012 #74

an intelligent repsonse. Swagman Sep 2012 #18

Sigh. The headline is dishonest. We don't know that Assange wrote that tweet. Also, it was retracted Hissyspit Sep 2012 #14

... the official WikiLeaks Twitter feed ... is generally presumed to be operated by Assange ... struggle4progress Sep 2012 #53

I posted that. Duh. Hissyspit Sep 2012 #104

There's good reason to presume Assange controls the Twitter feed: struggle4progress Sep 2012 #105

Yes, the best journalism is presumption-based, not fact-based. Hissyspit Sep 2012 #125

I WISH he was irrelevant. He still gets media coverage and DU threads. I'm tired of the creep, too Dems to Win Sep 2012 #71

A narcissist is exactly what he is. Everything's always about HIM. pnwmom Sep 2012 #78

. mzmolly Sep 2012 #90

This guy was a hero of sorts to many not that long ago, but he seems to be losing supporters octothorpe Sep 2012 #124

I like this man less and less every time he opens his mouth. DeltaLitProf Sep 2012 #10

That's all the easier when the yellow press... JackRiddler Sep 2012 #16

I hope you blame those who published them as well in that case Swagman Sep 2012 #19

Indian Express? Say no more! longship Sep 2012 #11

A nod's as good as a wink to a blind bat. nt awoke_in_2003 Sep 2012 #39

Well, here are some other sources: struggle4progress Sep 2012 #48

Hmmm, didn't I see pretty much this same post in GD... ljm2002 Sep 2012 #13

Jury voted to hide it tama Sep 2012 #15

Nice try, but I posted this here in LBN before the jury hid my other OP struggle4progress Sep 2012 #37

Yes, on second thought you must have tama Sep 2012 #40

Assangists support Assange on free speech grounds -- then censor his critics struggle4progress Sep 2012 #58

You throw that to me tama Sep 2012 #61

"Assangists" navarth Sep 2012 #101

in that case I've just become disgusted by the jury service and will never Swagman Sep 2012 #20

this occurred to me when I heard the news Swagman Sep 2012 #17

This is the dumbest and craziest thing Assange has ever said. He needs to keep his trap shut. nt ladjf Sep 2012 #21

Life on the lam is eating away at his brain. rucky Sep 2012 #22

and it is just going to get worse. He's barely begun his self-imprisonment in the embassy Dems to Win Sep 2012 #73

The tenor of most replies here shows that posters BlueMTexpat Sep 2012 #23

agree navarth Sep 2012 #30

expecting better was your first mistake.. frylock Sep 2012 #46

That's what gets me navarth Sep 2012 #92

Guilty ... GeorgeGist Sep 2012 #24

Those people have zero credibility - who cares what they say? George II Sep 2012 #25

Clever headline - guilt by association. dipsydoodle Sep 2012 #26

... "I am the heart and soul of this organization, its founder, philosopher, spokesperson, original struggle4progress Sep 2012 #35

I am a corrupt moron flying jumbo jets loaded with entire nations, says Julian Assange struggle4progress Sep 2012 #41

You gotta love that article---how one's drunk tweets from England hit the Aussies mid-day....nt msanthrope Sep 2012 #42

"They'll believe we're real journalists if we get hammered and post dumb shizz!" struggle4progress Sep 2012 #45

... the official WikiLeaks Twitter feed ... is generally presumed to be operated by Assange ... struggle4progress Sep 2012 #43

DU rec...nt SidDithers Sep 2012 #27

I stayed out of the Assange worship leftynyc Sep 2012 #28

+1 Rare for me, too Dems to Win Sep 2012 #70

Daniel Ellsberg said in 2010 navarth Sep 2012 #34

Wikileaks is cool. Assange is not. randome Sep 2012 #50

realtive coolness is irrelevant navarth Sep 2012 #51

Trolls? The contortions and conspiracy hoops you guys have to jump through to keep from... Tarheel_Dem Sep 2012 #55

contortions and conspiracy hoops? navarth Sep 2012 #64

Translation = Governments should be held accountable. Julian Assange? Not so much. Tarheel_Dem Sep 2012 #66

Thank you for putting words in my mouth navarth Sep 2012 #67

Frankly, I think he should be put away so he's not a danger to himself or others, but that's just me Tarheel_Dem Sep 2012 #68

please explain how he is a danger to himself or others navarth Sep 2012 #69

Assangists support Assange on free speech grounds -- then censor his critics struggle4progress Sep 2012 #59

pfft navarth Sep 2012 #65

Jury used to hide facts DUers dislike struggle4progress Sep 2012 #85

I had nothing to do with that. When I serve on a jury navarth Sep 2012 #87

So? Ellsburg wouldn't say that the Libya attack had anything to do with Wikileaks. pnwmom Sep 2012 #80

WTF? navarth Sep 2012 #82

Why does Assange have to go to Sweden before being extradited here and black bagged? Dems to Win Sep 2012 #86

At this point all he's got to do is walk out of that embassy in London. navarth Sep 2012 #88

Why didn't it happen when Assange was on bail in the UK, living at his friend's mansion? Dems to Win Sep 2012 #91

I agree. If we were going to extradite, it would be simpler straight from the UK. pnwmom Sep 2012 #95

ok. if you're sincere navarth Sep 2012 #98

Sweden is also a US ally. Why would the US be willing to interfere with the Swedish justice system Dems to Win Sep 2012 #117

I also would be willing to look at any links navarth Sep 2012 #118

Pretty damn callous: Dems to Win Sep 2012 #122

What the hell does the Libya attack have to do with Daniel Ellsburg? You tell me. pnwmom Sep 2012 #94

My reference to Ellsberg navarth Sep 2012 #99

There isn't a personal vendetta on DU. There are simply some people here pnwmom Sep 2012 #108

On the contrary navarth Sep 2012 #109

No one can provide proof of the innocent people he hurt when he released the pnwmom Sep 2012 #115

okay then. navarth Sep 2012 #120

Narcissists tend to attract both hero-worship and vitriol. pnwmom Sep 2012 #121

He's hiding from having his poor performance as a lover made public. randome Sep 2012 #96

What a disappointing post navarth Sep 2012 #100

WikiLeaks' Lamest Claim Ever: Benghazi Embassy Violence Linked To U.K. Threat To Arrest Assange struggle4progress Sep 2012 #44

GOLDSTEIN!!1 frylock Sep 2012 #47

Can't we all chip in and buy this mf'er a remote island so we never have to hear from him again? Tarheel_Dem Sep 2012 #52

I'm guessing the Swedes will deport him to Australia after they acquit him struggle4progress Sep 2012 #54

Yes, but that'll mean we'll still have to hear his name occasionally. I'd prefer he just went away, Tarheel_Dem Sep 2012 #56

After they acquit him? Comrade Grumpy Sep 2012 #60

If you prefer "I'm guessing the Swedes will deport him to Australia after they convict him" then struggle4progress Sep 2012 #63

Assange and Bacile, 2 peas in a pod Dems to Win Sep 2012 #62

Discouraging how many in this thread 1. Don't know the definition of "tacit" harun Sep 2012 #76

The US gave no approval to these attacks, tacit or otherwise. pnwmom Sep 2012 #81

The US took the position: "this is a bilateral issue between Ecuador and the United Kingdom" struggle4progress Sep 2012 #84

What I find discouraging davidthegnome Sep 2012 #89

It's not always about you Julian... JohnnyRingo Sep 2012 #77

Sweden + UK > Ecaudor Embassy + Assange does not = Movie + Mob > USA Embassy. freshwest Sep 2012 #97

This guy is JUST so full of himself, isn't he? nt WeekendWarrior Sep 2012 #102

Great guy. nt greyl Sep 2012 #126