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The Mouth

(3,165 posts)
22. You are welcome to think so
Wed May 29, 2019, 10:57 AM
May 2019

I don't think a lot of people on here grasp either why Trump got as many votes as he did nor Brexit, and for the same reasons. Folks aren't connecting the dots between Trump and Brexit and Australia, and Italy, and Hungary; it's all part of the same phenomena, and that teapot was very much a symbol and a harbinger.


A lot of people feel that the *only* entity that should make any sort of rule, law or regulation effecting what goes in in a country should be the government of that country, not the EU, not the UN.

Lots of family and some friends who are Trump and/or Brexit supporters. Nationalism is real, any government ignores it at its peril. Be it borders or trade, there's a huge, instinctive backlash when some outside entity says 'you must do/not do this'; right or wrong, good or bad, something like a government in another country or an international organization TELLING the citizens of a nation will arouse a reaction that people with an internationalist, egalitarian and 'citizen of the world' viewpoint are shocked by.

So I wasn't at all surprised by either Trump's win nor Brexit. And the world hasn't begun to see the crest of nationalism, and won't for another 20-30 years. Just a cynical observation by a very pessimistic progressive.

Maybe I'm wrong, I hope so.

Like they have to say it again. n/t Thyla May 2019 #1
I know that the EU was hoping that GB would come to their senses... Javaman May 2019 #2
Stupid is what stupid does! BlueJac May 2019 #4
I am completely... Mike Nelson May 2019 #3
I agree... Javaman May 2019 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author Freelancer May 2019 #6
When I read about the EU regulating teapots The Mouth May 2019 #12
Teapots had next to nothing to do with it Blue_Tires May 2019 #14
You are welcome to think so The Mouth May 2019 #22
What you're describing can be summed up with the word "fascism" Blue_Tires May 2019 #23
Post removed Post removed May 2019 #24
This message was self-deleted by its author Freelancer May 2019 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author Freelancer May 2019 #20
Nope... The rules are laid out pretty clearly Blue_Tires May 2019 #13
Couldn't this decision be a catylist for a re-vote? LiberalLovinLug May 2019 #7
So the people that won't let the citizens have another vote... Gore1FL May 2019 #8
No one in power has asked for another deal. former9thward May 2019 #16
with a Boris or Farage Brexit there won't be a GB just an England. bronxiteforever May 2019 #9
Don't forget Wales... also not part of England. nt. BlueIdaho May 2019 #10
Good point! bronxiteforever May 2019 #11
yep, this essentially hands the Scots & Irish more fuel to call for another independence referendum onetexan May 2019 #18
The open secret is that Northern Ireland has always been a matter of time before they break away... Xolodno May 2019 #21
Three years later it's clear nobody knows what the fuck they're doing Blue_Tires May 2019 #15
Nice to meet you; don't let the door hit you sandensea May 2019 #17
Really? I think we shot a bunch of rednecks once who tried to leave the US Tarc May 2019 #25
I think they should have a revote, and my guess it would be to stay in EU, because... northoftheborder May 2019 #26
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