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tymorial

(3,433 posts)
37. I dont understand your question
Wed May 29, 2019, 08:13 PM
May 2019

Everyone should expect their senator and representative to place the good of the nation above personal desire. I would love to have a majority in both houses and the presidency forever (though there will be an eventual party split down the line but that's another subject entirely). However first and foremost we must have a nation that is governed by laws. We must have a government that holds its leaders accountable when they violate their oath and break the law. This must be so even if its politically inconvenient n. This must be so even if we know for certain that doing so means we will alienate those voters who prefer anarchy to rule of law.

We are either a constitutional republic or we are not. We either demand that our representatives honor their oath even if it costs seats or we do not.

I am disinterested in living in a country that has devolved to dishonor and self interest even if its "benevolent" to some. If we fail to impeach then we might as well admit to the world that our "great experiment" isnt worth spit. We will have proved our corruption and dishonor for generations.

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Numbers matter. elleng May 2019 #1
That is why Linda Ed May 2019 #76
NUMBERS DO MATTER..!!!!! Stuart G May 2019 #88
at this point, all i can do is lol. Kurt V. May 2019 #2
Don't know WHAT to say! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #7
For those that believe it is imperative that we draw a line in the sand, and initiate articles of still_one May 2019 #51
I agree, we should ALL do that!! I've already communicated with 2 out of 3... 1 to go. InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #57
thank-you. and we agree 100% on this inabluestate still_one May 2019 #62
What's amazing is that all of the top-tier Democratic presidential candidates InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #63
Corry Booker was the first to announce it as far as I am aware, and I definitely give him still_one May 2019 #65
Yes, absolutely Corey DOES deserve accolades for that. Bernie was a little "late to the party"... InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #81
Important point. if pelosi isn't going to impeach should let the candidates know bc Kurt V. May 2019 #83
Pelosi WILL come around... she's WAY too politically savvy NOT to see the writing on the wall... InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #86
What makes you more "politically savvy" than Speaker Pelosi? ehrnst May 2019 #101
Never said I was... saying the exact OPPOSITE. Precisely because Pelosi is politically savvy InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #103
Actually, yes you did. You're saying that she'll "catch up" to where ehrnst May 2019 #106
Never she Pelosi is "not qualified" or even implied it... just the OPPOSITE. InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #107
Has Bernie "fallen in line yet?" Last I heard he was not in favor of it. ehrnst May 2019 #89
Already answered this in my post above, in the string you responded to; just hafta look up & read it InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #96
Long thread... ehrnst May 2019 #100
LOL, you need a link to my post in the short string of posts, in which you already responded?! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #102
You're even testier this morning than usual about links. ehrnst May 2019 #104
We need to get Trump out of office before the 2020 election. GreydeeThos May 2019 #3
There is a risk though and its that it could help Pence into winning the election plus if Trump is cstanleytech May 2019 #17
Pence couldn't get re-elected in his home state. He's not threat. bitterross May 2019 #29
Few VP are really popular or well known but the Repugnants would have ample time cstanleytech May 2019 #31
The only block who will vote for pence are the evangelical extremists. Ford_Prefect May 2019 #70
I think that the majority of uneducated Trump supporters that get spoon fed their so called news cstanleytech May 2019 #72
Yeah, well da fuck yiz all know. Pence got God on his side. 3Hotdogs May 2019 #71
We won't get him out, but need to at least send a message Bradical79 Jun 2019 #112
OMG... Freedomofspeech May 2019 #4
Simmer down now, u keeping your powder dry? Baclava May 2019 #8
It's the nightmare that never ends. Nadler summarized it quite nicely today... InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #12
Ya but if its largely only our guys its almost a wasted effort especially since the cstanleytech May 2019 #23
He's not going now qazplm135 May 2019 #18
I don't know if that is true or not. We haven't had any hearings. nt Gore1FL May 2019 #30
It's absolutely true qazplm135 May 2019 #33
The same was said before the hearings for Nixon. nt Gore1FL May 2019 #35
Democrats controlled the Senate after the 1972 election (i.e., during Watergate). nt BumRushDaShow May 2019 #41
They didn't have 66 seats. Gore1FL May 2019 #56
In that case it didn't matter BumRushDaShow May 2019 #75
First see below qazplm135 May 2019 #48
I submit that 50 year old evidence is better than no evidence. nt Gore1FL May 2019 #55
There's plenty of evidence. TwilightZone May 2019 #66
And how is this different from when they didn't have the votes for Nixon? Gore1FL May 2019 #95
Just absurd qazplm135 May 2019 #68
OK we'll just go with your soothsaying, then. nt Gore1FL May 2019 #94
yeah qazplm135 May 2019 #99
Unless things have changed. ehrnst May 2019 #105
Things changed during the impeachment proceedings of Nixon too. Gore1FL May 2019 #108
So are you calling Speaker Pelosi "silly" and "avoiding what is constitutionally ehrnst May 2019 #109
Did I mention Pelosi? Gore1FL May 2019 #110
If there is no ultimate plan to hold the administration accountable then we might as well admit tymorial May 2019 #5
+1 InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #13
Well said The Liberal Lion May 2019 #22
Sadly, reference your last sentence Dan May 2019 #25
I dont understand your question tymorial May 2019 #37
sad smile Dan May 2019 #42
At some point, voting won't matter Bradical79 Jun 2019 #111
You are absolutely right. Dave Starsky May 2019 #28
+1,000,000 ..... LenaBaby61 May 2019 #36
That is exactly where we are heading. And it's quite possible we will end there anyway tymorial May 2019 #40
That is exactly where we are heading. And it's quite possible we will end there anyway. LenaBaby61 May 2019 #47
Does anyone think Pelosi is concerned about losing House seats over this? Raven123 May 2019 #6
maybe 200 of them haven't read the report yet? n/t Baclava May 2019 #9
This... dhill926 May 2019 #45
I heard a lot of the new seats won marlakay May 2019 #74
Too big to fail circumvents the constitution yaesu May 2019 #10
It sure is!! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #14
You hit the nail on the head The Liberal Lion May 2019 #20
That's leadership for ya BeyondGeography May 2019 #11
It's disappointing, to be sure... but, maybe Speaker Pelosi has a "Grand Plan" InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #16
She is delaying so that the rejection by the Senate does NOT happen elfin May 2019 #15
One thing ... LenaBaby61 May 2019 #38
Yikes! Now I will never sleep again. elfin May 2019 #52
Good gawd, well, it's almost like Speaker Pelosi is running defense for trump The Liberal Lion May 2019 #19
Right fucking on! BeyondGeography May 2019 #24
"Good gawd, well, it's almost like Speaker Pelosi is running defense for trump." LenaBaby61 May 2019 #44
Pelosi doesn't want to impeach -- period! earthshine May 2019 #64
Makes you wonder if she understands the reason why red districts flipped blue in 2018 shawn703 May 2019 #21
They flipped because Trump acted like an anchor to drive Repugnant leaning voters away mainly. cstanleytech May 2019 #27
75 fucking percent is not a small number but keep making excuses Fullduplexxx May 2019 #26
75%? hughee99 May 2019 #39
That was the latest polling numbers i heard on stephanie miller's show Fullduplexxx May 2019 #67
Ah, okay. hughee99 May 2019 #69
Success! Kurt V. May 2019 #85
Why do we always go into "Please, don't hurt me" mode? Gore1FL May 2019 #32
35 out of 237, about 14%; of which the 14% impeachment callers do not necessarily constitute empedocles May 2019 #34
Only 14% want to impeach? Thanks for doing the math, lots of work to do n/t Baclava May 2019 #46
Ok BlueWI May 2019 #92
Nancy I love you dearly abqtommy May 2019 #43
Nancy did not "set aside" impeachment... it's still "on the table," as she likes to say... InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #82
Be patient and let the evidence mount....House investigations are going to uncover more and more... AKing May 2019 #49
Compounding evidence is so rational. However, the impeachment frenzy is empedocles May 2019 #50
Maybe Lindsey stillcool May 2019 #60
We already have a tsunami of evidence for impeachment... some seem to be needlessly waiting InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #84
'tsunami of evidence for impeachment', makes a great legal issue. Unfortunately, the Constitution empedocles May 2019 #93
So WTF are the other 200 thinking? Maybe one of them can... Hotler May 2019 #53
Republican prayers? moonseller66 May 2019 #54
The House will never get the evidence it needs until it punishes people who ignore subpoenas More_Cowbell May 2019 #58
I'd like to stress that impeachment is the only moral, constitutional, principled, and rational Nitram May 2019 #59
If someone would just give him a goddamned blowjob we'd be done with this discussion LearnedHand May 2019 #61
Let's make him the Stevie Nicks character in Landslide. truthisfreedom May 2019 #73
Nadler and Pelosi must subpoena Muller to testify. YOHABLO May 2019 #77
Maybe when Pelosi reads this she will change her mind Linda Ed May 2019 #78
In the meantime, ALL BlueMTexpat May 2019 #79
Just like they told us about Iraq. nt RandiFan1290 May 2019 #80
Take a poll of Democrats across the country. Magoo48 May 2019 #87
Big risk manicdem May 2019 #90
I know what you're saying but isn't apathy just as big a risk if they do nothing? Baclava May 2019 #91
Impeachment will play right into Trump's hands Snellius May 2019 #97
Nancy should have started empeachement precedings.. Maxheader May 2019 #98
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