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98. Yep, here we are...

Fri May 31, 2019, 09:44 AM

May 2019

I love dogs and was on a flight once with a little dog surrounded by other dog lovers and the whole thing was a fun experience. However, if you aren't a dog person, or even hate dogs, or are allergic to dogs, I can see how this would make for a very unpleasant trip. And as you say, you don't think you need to protect yourself from an animal attack on a plane!

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Man attacked by emotional support dog on Delta flight sues the airline and passenger [View all] mahatmakanejeeves May 2019 OP

I knew this was only a matter of time Fullduplexxx May 2019 #1

We have a realive that has a service or support dog. olegramps May 2019 #12

Horrible and sad, but I sincerely hope there is not an excessive overreaction with future policy. hlthe2b May 2019 #2

Obviously no knee-jerk responses needed Cirque du So-What May 2019 #8

Kneejerk response is banning ALL animals, which some (perhaps you?) would scream for. hlthe2b May 2019 #15

Howzabout you direct your commentary toward some in this thread who are calling for an outright ban Cirque du So-What May 2019 #27

Because you imply anyone who wants policy to be both enforced and revisions supported by facts hlthe2b May 2019 #29

Once again, you attribute those statements to me, when I have said nothing of the sort Cirque du So-What May 2019 #31

You are more than deserving because of your initial post. hlthe2b May 2019 #32

Oh, because it's so terrible that I don't want anyone mauled on an airplane? Cirque du So-What May 2019 #34

No one wants anyone mauled on an airplane. hlthe2b May 2019 #35

That's just, like, your opinion Cirque du So-What May 2019 #37

I have ALWAYS called for review-- not kneejerk bans hlthe2b May 2019 #38

Fact: someone mauled by uncertified untrained animal. Fact: training & certification & selection of Kashkakat v.2.0 May 2019 #72

A simple review of what happened in this case before you jump off the cliff with your proposals. hlthe2b May 2019 #73

"simple review" - yep, I read the article. Did you? What else is there to know? nt Kashkakat v.2.0 May 2019 #84

More so than you obviously. You seemed to have become blinded by rage at dog owners in general hlthe2b May 2019 #85

So take it up with that other poster who said that. I didnt. nt Kashkakat v.2.0 May 2019 #90

Whether this dog was properly trained treestar May 2019 #97

Hmm. I'm reminded here of the gun apologists who assert PoindexterOglethorpe Jun 2019 #101

It's not a knee jerk response if you always were against animals on planes Loki Liesmith May 2019 #30

It is a horrible attitude given you'd likewise ban true service dogs. I'll take them over people hlthe2b May 2019 #33

In which case I'm guessing you're just fine with being mauled PoindexterOglethorpe Jun 2019 #103

Are you against trained service animals too? Sapient Donkey May 2019 #54

My blind partner is one of that "micropercentage" you so callously dismiss Jake Stern May 2019 #60

When it was just seeing eye dogs customerserviceguy Jun 2019 #108

That often seems to be the sentiment when assistance is irrelevant to the individual. LanternWaste May 2019 #64

I'm assuming you aren't referring Codeine May 2019 #89

Extreme situations call for extreme measures - no untrained, uncertified animals - period. nt Kashkakat v.2.0 May 2019 #9

That isn't what I said. I said changes need to be well thought out and researched, not hlthe2b May 2019 #13

I heard you the first time - we have a difference of opinion, and I was stating mine. I think there Kashkakat v.2.0 May 2019 #23

I don't disagree on training/certification. I do disagree on making judgements without the facts. hlthe2b May 2019 #25

I don't think most people would call for a total ban that would limit trained and certified service Sapient Donkey May 2019 #49

There is at least one. hlthe2b May 2019 #50

I gotcha and agree 100% Sapient Donkey May 2019 #56

I agree and I have a service dog. TruckFump May 2019 #43

The problem is Blackjackdavey May 2019 #45

You are totally correct. TruckFump May 2019 #46

OK, thats interesting but why would showing certification for your animal be any more problematic Kashkakat v.2.0 May 2019 #71

Perhaps legit service and support animals should get a special "Certified for travel" tag? forgotmylogin May 2019 #78

Those of us with "invisable" disabilities Doreen May 2019 #51

Boy, do I hear you!!!! TruckFump May 2019 #66

Oh yeah, the handicap sticker issue. Doreen May 2019 #70

If your dog behaves well in public, then I sincerely doubt you have a problem. PoindexterOglethorpe Jun 2019 #102

I would not want to euthanize the dog. Doreen Jun 2019 #109

Why don't you get a set of earplugs or turn on a fan if you are so miserable? Hassin Bin Sober Jun 2019 #113

Yes, great example of a real working dog. milestogo May 2019 #88

One of my friends has a baaaaaaaaaaaaaaad neighbor with 3 yippie dogs TruckFump May 2019 #94

It doesn't sound like the policy needs changing...it needs implementing. brooklynite May 2019 #11

True enough. hlthe2b May 2019 #14

I'm curious as to why they didn't RhodeIslandOne Jun 2019 #100

50lb dog on a lap? That is a seriously large dog - I wonder what breed too... Pachamama May 2019 #3

There are people you genuinely need service dogs ScratchCat May 2019 #4

the system is indeed being abused. cab67 May 2019 #16

My crazy niece keeps adopting what she calls "emotional support dogs" csziggy May 2019 #91

Hit 'em in the pocketbook. That seems to be the "American Way" lately Glorfindel May 2019 #5

Usually red flags before in such a severe case. Dog was guarding, but I doubt first time he emmaverybo May 2019 #6

picked up in training? i doubt there was any training. mopinko May 2019 #24

Well, that was the mystery to me, what the quality of said training was. But it appears doubtful emmaverybo May 2019 #75

From my lifetime of working with dogs on a professional Doreen May 2019 #53

100 percent agree. emmaverybo May 2019 #76

People, like this dog owner, are abusing the service dog rules. SunSeeker May 2019 #7

Emotional support animals are not service animals. OnlinePoker May 2019 #21

We need regulation of these animals. This is out of conttol. nt SunSeeker May 2019 #26

I thought we were to that point awhile ago ripcord May 2019 #55

Wiki lol Fullduplexxx May 2019 #40

If you look at the wiki, it has a link to the study this line is from. OnlinePoker May 2019 #42

emotional support animals are complicating many things cab67 May 2019 #10

" Snake phobias are real things." Oh, yes, they are. I'm scared of PICTURES of snakes, Glorfindel May 2019 #19

Understood. cab67 May 2019 #22

As a child I was allergic to fur and feathers. Igel May 2019 #77

It wouldn't take poison ivy for me. cab67 May 2019 #80

Great post! csziggy May 2019 #92

I'm sorry but some kind of a snake as a support animal is PoindexterOglethorpe Jun 2019 #104

respectfully disagree cab67 Jun 2019 #105

So how bout some emotional support for the emotional support animals!? Poor things getting stressed Kashkakat v.2.0 May 2019 #17

I agree get the red out May 2019 #36

I agree. yardwork May 2019 #39

Hey, I have an ESA that has an ESA. Doreen May 2019 #61

This is why I no longer accede to requests for provider notes authorizing Aristus May 2019 #18

Perhaps a simple change of requiring muzzles for all uncaged animals as well as cstanleytech May 2019 #20

Seems reasonable. But I'd still hate to be stuck in the seat next to them. SunSeeker May 2019 #28

That was on of the reasons I kept my service dog regularly Doreen May 2019 #62

Assuming airlines have leeway to shift passengers around to other seats anyone with a severe cstanleytech May 2019 #83

passengers have sat on emotional support animal poop before IronLionZion May 2019 #41

the emotional support dog thing is a racket, a scam. can I bring my support crocodile on a plane too msongs May 2019 #44

Actually with the lax laws you can. Doreen May 2019 #63

Am I correct in my understanding that emotional support dogs are not necessarily trained Sapient Donkey May 2019 #47

Yes. An 'emotional support' animal can be whatever its master wants it to be. Aristus May 2019 #58

I did read that one of the airlines has imposed limits on the type of animal dixiegrrrrl May 2019 #69

I am a big service/ESA animal advocate but I Doreen May 2019 #48

was the owner upset an uppity black guy was concerned about his dog ? how did he lose control lunasun May 2019 #52

A true service dog needs to be trained as such debsy May 2019 #57

I used to have a service dog and I did not even take him everywhere. Doreen May 2019 #65

This message was self-deleted by its author LeftinOH May 2019 #59

How to Qualify for An Emotional Support Animal IronLionZion May 2019 #67

Imagine if this had been a child or an infant who was killed mainer May 2019 #68

No dogs in the cabin Blues Heron May 2019 #74

He was a law-abiding emotional support pit-mix... Devil Child May 2019 #79

My father had a guide dog cp May 2019 #81

my neighbor trains puppies KT2000 May 2019 #86

The article in the Atlanta Journal-Constitution: mahatmakanejeeves May 2019 #82

thanks for the links. nt Mosby May 2019 #87

The things I think of after boarding a plane miyazaki May 2019 #93

Yep, here we are... Phentex May 2019 #98

This is rediculous. honest.abe May 2019 #95

Are you listening, businesses/airlines/retailers? TheCowsCameHome May 2019 #96

It's out of control TexasAggieDemocrat12 May 2019 #99

I really dislike dogs . I would never sit next to one on a flight. tymorial Jun 2019 #106

A dog that large is going to be very stressed and uncomfortable on a lap for several hours alphafemale Jun 2019 #107

How could a dog that big fit on the floor Marthe48 Jun 2019 #110

Just based on what I've read here, the man has a solid case. Progressive Jones Jun 2019 #111

I do not believe live animals of any type belong in the passenger cabin. MicaelS Jun 2019 #112