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sheepfarm

(38 posts)
51. Oh dear! Tiny Hands Trump has just "dropped a bollock"...
Tue Jun 4, 2019, 04:56 PM
Jun 2019

...as we say over here.

The main Brexit pushers three years ago in the run up to the referendum complained about Obama warning the UK that they would "be in the back of the queue" for a trade deal with the USA post-Brexit, complaining about a foreign political leader interfering with a national vote.

Unless they are actual advocates for wanting to asset strip the NHS to a full or mostly private voluntary insurance model, then anyone who supports Brexit still whom heard Trump mention what they did will either have their head in their hands, and or seriously consider changing their mind about Brexit.

That slogan on the side of the red bus, if it wasn't already meaningless, has just been buried ten foot under by a POTUS who may have not realised at the time what he has done!

The NHS is a sacred cow in British politics. Not even Margaret Thatcher dared to dismantle the NHS during her government's reign, instead limiting reform to the way internal markets in the NHS were conducted. Some more reforms have been made since then by various governments, but a strong point of principle remains in that treatment is free at the point of delivery - the only notable payment is usually for prescription medicine. And that's only in England, and it's largely subsidised at a flat-rate cost, and that's only for those not entitled to free prescriptions like children, the elderly, the unemployed & low waged, those with long term health conditions etc. In Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland, prescription medicine is universally free.

The NHS most certainly isn't perfect. There are currently increasing waiting lists, getting an appointment to see a family doctor on the same day in many areas is close to impossible, most sectors are under financial strains etc. However the near universal attitude among the British public is that it's not the core of the system that is broke, but that the system isn't being given the right resources to run at the best it can. Opinion polling over decades have shown ongoing popular support for a small or modest increase in income tax if it was ring fenced for the NHS.

The irony in all of this is that the demographic that weighed the most towards voting for Brexit was the over 50's - the part of the population that in the future will be depending upon a present day NHS the most. Tell those especially close to retiring what their medicine costs and potential insurance premiums will be, assuming no American-style Medicare is put in place, and the penny might just drop with quite a lot of them.

Seriously if the main figureheads of those whom want Brexit revisited by either cancelling the Article 50 notice or by a second referendum/peoples vote can't make hay of this dropped bollock over the summer, then they don't deserve anything.

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The end game of Brexit is now being seen Sanity Claws Jun 2019 #1
Yup, basically Americanize the UKs health plan. Geezuz! KPN Jun 2019 #3
Tweet from Nicola Sturgeon, First Minister of Scotland: highplainsdem Jun 2019 #2
I am catching up due to dealing with our Health Insurance Co and Dr. staff who can't seem to asiliveandbreathe Jun 2019 #11
Health must be for sale! In so many words ... KPN Jun 2019 #4
Yours and my health. Not his. 3Hotdogs Jun 2019 #12
He can't even just wreck one country at a time. CanonRay Jun 2019 #5
WTF I don't get it. eShirl Jun 2019 #6
Who the fuck gave dotard the right to dictate healthcare to other countries?????? groundloop Jun 2019 #7
This was a direct order from his lord and master, Vladimir Putin Fritz Walter Jun 2019 #10
that is what I was thinking. We negotiate things that we work together on, demigoddess Jun 2019 #33
Theresa May's face when Donald Trump said the NHS is 'on the table' : highplainsdem Jun 2019 #8
Making the world safe for predatory capitalism. nt Eugene Jun 2019 #9
the arrogance is astounding... dhill926 Jun 2019 #13
Trump has done more for the second referendum crowd than he could ever imagine by this statement Soph0571 Jun 2019 #14
I agree. highplainsdem Jun 2019 #15
I'm already seeing tweets about this from people who hadn't backed a second referendum till now. highplainsdem Jun 2019 #20
destroying the US health care system is not enough? Maine-i-acs Jun 2019 #16
It's called Disaster Capitalism sop Jun 2019 #42
Will the Brits want to exploit our Medicare and Social Security? mainer Jun 2019 #17
The NHS interferes with profits American insurance and drug companies think they could make there. highplainsdem Jun 2019 #18
Did he go to England just to drop his vicious trade piece? Oh yeah, and to golf at his golf club. notdarkyet Jun 2019 #19
Unfortunately - Brexiters will be all for it... Myrddin Jun 2019 #21
Not all of them Soph0571 Jun 2019 #23
I hope so.. Myrddin Jun 2019 #38
Yeah, I think they went way too fast with the messaging on this, and Trump didn't help sop Jun 2019 #46
What I don't understand is mercuryblues Jun 2019 #22
Tweet from the Labour Party: Our NHS is not for sale. highplainsdem Jun 2019 #24
Maybe this will wake up Labour a little bit. yardwork Jun 2019 #48
He looked confused. I don't think he knew what NHS stands for. lamp_shade Jun 2019 #25
Theresa May had to explain it to him -- here's a tweet with video: highplainsdem Jun 2019 #29
Makes sense Midnightwalk Jun 2019 #26
The Corporate State does not want to subsidize healthcare for its citizens. For profit only. jalan48 Jun 2019 #27
What the predatory trip was about it seems. Big bucks in medical. appalachiablue Jun 2019 #28
I Totally Don't Get It RobinA Jun 2019 #30
I'm with you. I don't get the connection. nt Honeycombe8 Jun 2019 #31
It's about the privatization of services by corporations. Corporations are international jalan48 Jun 2019 #32
Correct! Novice Patriot Jun 2019 #41
welcome to DU gopiscrap Jun 2019 #58
It is all about Putin's continuing efforts to destroy the west. avebury Jun 2019 #34
I'm sure that Trump Kaiserguy Jun 2019 #55
This, tout simplement, defies comment. Mme. Defarge Jun 2019 #35
Trump to Brits: "Now listen you, Dimwits. You see what I doing to Mexico? When I squeeze NCjack Jun 2019 #36
If everything is on the table then let's bring NHS to the USA. TeamPooka Jun 2019 #37
We'll call it "Medicare for all" sop Jun 2019 #43
Brit Cons angry about EU "control" want to swap it for US control of their economy? Nuts. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2019 #39
Trump is truly a global menace DeminPennswoods Jun 2019 #40
Like many I was confused about this statement, but then I remembered that Trump is a moron Sapient Donkey Jun 2019 #44
He really means it. His ambassador to the UK said the same thing. They intend to force the NHS highplainsdem Jun 2019 #45
I started reading into it a bit more Sapient Donkey Jun 2019 #49
Brits, Don't let them take away your NHS! NT raccoon Jun 2019 #47
I don't think U.S. health/pharmas have anything to offer Marthe48 Jun 2019 #50
Oh dear! Tiny Hands Trump has just "dropped a bollock"... sheepfarm Jun 2019 #51
Heard reporting this afternoon that Trump doesn't DeminPennswoods Jun 2019 #52
F that. applegrove Jun 2019 #53
It's funny only because one of the original Blue_Tires Jun 2019 #54
That's a deal-breaker before a deal has even been proposed. Nitram Jun 2019 #56
This man, Donald Trump is so stupid, that he doesn't know what NHS is. Saying something like this, Stuart G Jun 2019 #57
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