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frazzled

(18,402 posts)
4. I don't think this is about not having insurance
Wed Jan 11, 2012, 06:09 PM
Jan 2012

Although it may be about being poor and either ignorant or, possibly, abusive. As the article says, they could have taken the child to an emergency room for free. There's got to be more to this story: more evidence of willful neglect of the welfare of the child. If they just honestly didn't know (but at some point, as the child lay dying, I would think you'd have to know something was terribly amiss.)

There have been a number of cases brought against Christian Scientists for not bringing their child to a doctor, though this is still very controversial. The most famous is Commonwealth v. Twitchell. I'll just quote from Wikipedia:

Commonwealth v. Twitchell, 416 Mass. 114 (1993) was the most prominent of a series of criminal cases in the late 1980s and early 1990s in which parents who were members of the Christian Science Church were prosecuted for the deaths of children whose medical conditions had been treated only by Christian Science treatment.
In 1988, Massachusetts prosecutors charged David and Ginger Twitchell with manslaughter in the 1986 death of their two-year-old son Robyn.
Robyn Twitchell died of a peritonitis caused by a bowel obstruction that medical professionals declared would have been easily correctable.
The Twitchells' defense contended that the couple were within their First Amendment rights to treat their son's illness with prayer and that Massachusetts had recognized this right in an exemption to the statute outlawing child neglect.
The Twitchells were convicted of involuntary manslaughter. They were sentenced to ten years probation and required to bring their remaining children to regular visits to a pediatrician.[1][2] The conviction was overturned in 1993 by the Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court.[3]
The Twitchell case, and others like it, have become rallying points for both people who criticize religious exemptions to child neglect laws,[4] and those who believe that the government oversteps its bounds when it prosecutes people who believe that prayer is a legitimate alternative to medical treatment.[5]


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Like something out of Dickens. People jailed because they didn't have health insurance. yardwork Jan 2012 #1
I don't think this is about not having insurance frazzled Jan 2012 #4
I'm so sick of this "Emergency room is free" bullshit. evilkumquat Jan 2012 #5
So you let your kid die frazzled Jan 2012 #10
Not saying let the kids die, nor saying these parents aren't at least partial guilty evilkumquat Jan 2012 #15
Well, I agree; I know they are not free frazzled Jan 2012 #17
what happens when you suspect your child is seriously ill... lame54 Jan 2012 #34
what happens when you suspect your child is seriously ill... unapatriciated Jan 2012 #35
YOU know your children better than their doctors do leftynyc Jan 2012 #38
It was my threat to sue that finally got the blood test done. unapatriciated Jan 2012 #45
They made no such choice spotbird Jan 2012 #23
You are correct and any sensible person will not use the ER Tumbulu Jan 2012 #27
If they thought he had swollen glands, they would not take him to the emergency room. JDPriestly Jan 2012 #11
See expanded information below, plus they pled guilty frazzled Jan 2012 #13
They were jailed because they criminally neglected their children--see post 6 below.nt msanthrope Jan 2012 #8
I appreciate the additional info. Thanks. yardwork Jan 2012 #22
Who TF thought it would be a good idea to prosecute these people Gman Jan 2012 #2
Six kids, none in school--moved to avoid Child Protective Services--see post 6. msanthrope Jan 2012 #7
That gives a different perspective on the matter. JDPriestly Jan 2012 #12
Hang the bastards Gman Jan 2012 #21
agreed. there has to be more to this. :( roguevalley Jan 2012 #3
These bastards deserved more time--More info on case-- msanthrope Jan 2012 #6
Thanks for this. Wait Wut Jan 2012 #9
From the Wash. Post: Tunkamerica Jan 2012 #14
you left quite a bit out- here from your link azurnoir Jan 2012 #16
there's 3 paragraph limit Tunkamerica Jan 2012 #19
But when an insurance company does it... Duer 157099 Jan 2012 #18
If they had claimed they were relying on prayer... Deep13 Jan 2012 #20
something no one here has mentioned the family was being under the auspices azurnoir Jan 2012 #24
the washington post article said that their social worker told them not to get the lump Tunkamerica Jan 2012 #25
The same article says that social services had been involved since July of 2007 azurnoir Jan 2012 #26
How believable is that? LisaL Jan 2012 #28
but if that is true how was it that social services was involved for at least 6 months azurnoir Jan 2012 #29
The LAST thing CPS does is help families mntleo2 Jan 2012 #30
Thank you well said n/t azurnoir Jan 2012 #33
CPS workers are not well paid bluestateguy Jan 2012 #37
It is not the CPS worker for which I am speaking ... mntleo2 Jan 2012 #41
What makes them dangerous is enormous power + little understanding 2 Much Tribulation Jan 2012 #44
Thank-you, you said it all in a nutshell! nt mntleo2 Jan 2012 #48
That is NOT my experience with my State's Children, Youth and Families (CYF). happyslug Jan 2012 #40
Relatives are usually the LAST consideration for these kids mntleo2 Jan 2012 #42
This is a PN parent story you might "like".... mntleo2 Jan 2012 #47
+1 for being very VERY true nt 2 Much Tribulation Jan 2012 #43
Just not enough information Stonepounder Jan 2012 #31
more articles with background info alp227 Jan 2012 #32
These folks are the Teabaggers' and Libertarians' Dream Parents Tsiyu Jan 2012 #36
they're picketing Planned Parenthood clinics in the name of "LIFE! LIFE!" alp227 Jan 2012 #46
But under no circumstances - once you're out of the uterus- dare Tsiyu Jan 2012 #49
If we had an Obama's health care plan Auntie Bush Jan 2012 #39
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