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210. There is no evidence -none- that extradition is on the table.

Sun Sep 16, 2012, 06:58 PM

Sep 2012

Who says the investigation has anything to do with extraditing him? Other than Assange and his supporters.

Assange conspired with Manning to do a document dump of classified information. It makes sense that officials would want to know how this was allowed to happen. Backtrack and find the steps that led to a serious breach of national security?

I don't see why they would NOT want to investigate.

But investigating HOW it happened does not mean extradition is likely. By Assange's point of view, he can commit any crime in the world now and claim he cannot be tried because he 'might' be extradited to the U.S.

With all the attention -and time and effort- that has followed him around, there is no way in hell he could be extradited now without massive world-wide protests. It isn't going to happen, IMO.

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Condom used as evidence in Assange sex case 'does not contain his DNA' [View all] dipsydoodle Sep 2012 OP

du rec. Nt xchrom Sep 2012 #1

That is going to upset some people around here. hobbit709 Sep 2012 #2

Some people will struggle with it. grantcart Sep 2012 #3

Yes, even though this evidence represents progress in the case. Occulus Sep 2012 #48

4 shame! frylock Sep 2012 #100

omg, lol! nt laundry_queen Sep 2012 #272

LOL! Cleita Sep 2012 #127

Woohoo! A 3 post tandem Duzy!!! Zorra Sep 2012 #284

Not at all. I actually think this signals Julian knows he's back msanthrope Sep 2012 #54

How can they rule out his DNA on a condom and "think" it's on another if they dont have his rhett o rick Sep 2012 #174

They can't. Which is why what the lawyer is saying sounds like bullshit. msanthrope Sep 2012 #260

Sounds like a witchhunt. nm rhett o rick Sep 2012 #298

No--it sounds like simple logic--you can't conclusively match anyone before you msanthrope Sep 2012 #320

I am trying to agree with you. nm rhett o rick Sep 2012 #321

I think that is almost impossible reorg Sep 2012 #326

The subheadline will upset some people, too. pnwmom Sep 2012 #132

Who "thinks" this? Either it's been tested or not. And the condom that rhett o rick Sep 2012 #177

Under the Swedish justice system's procedures, they cannot charge him pnwmom Sep 2012 #215

often repeated, never supported reorg Sep 2012 #223

Except in the appeals documents of the British court. pnwmom Sep 2012 #227

please try to understand before you comment reorg Sep 2012 #233

I do understand. The legal term "charged" in Sweden doesn't mean pnwmom Sep 2012 #236

No, you don't reorg Sep 2012 #244

The US is not "anxious" to throw him into prison... AntiFascist Sep 2012 #224

I bet they are very "anxious" to get him in prison but you are probably right about rhett o rick Sep 2012 #228

The rape allegation is because the terms of consent required a condom. joshcryer Sep 2012 #254

The Daily Mail. Can't write a proper fucking headline if its life depended on it. joshcryer Sep 2012 #252

Desperate much? nt Zorra Sep 2012 #286

In denial, much? pnwmom Sep 2012 #290

Oh, please. He pissed in your beloved Miltary Industrial Complex's soup, Zorra Sep 2012 #295

+1000. polly7 Sep 2012 #300

Oh, please. He's a certifiable narcissist and he attracts hero-worshippers like flies. pnwmom Sep 2012 #301

The Assange Charges Always Seemed Manufactured To Me cantbeserious Sep 2012 #4

I shot the sheriff, but I did not shoot the deputy? originalpckelly Sep 2012 #5

What case? tama Sep 2012 #11

Oh, I don't know. They could always use the Romney tactic: "He raped me retroactively." 1monster Sep 2012 #69

You must understand. zeemike Sep 2012 #74

Ahhhh; greiner3 Sep 2012 #18

But was the other condom also broken? The quote from the article does not state that. JDPriestly Sep 2012 #22

Actually, still looking like he shot both... msanthrope Sep 2012 #61

Got to call you on that one (as you and other have been called on repeatedly): Assange was permitted 1monster Sep 2012 #71

He was permitted to leave and yet Sweden wants to extradite him to the U.S. randome Sep 2012 #77

It takes a modicum of imagination. The Doctor. Sep 2012 #161

Just as Assange is changing his mind now? randome Sep 2012 #168

How is he 'changing his mind'? The Doctor. Sep 2012 #178

I don't know what the absence of his DNA proves. randome Sep 2012 #180

Wow.... I would think after the enormous amount of evidence that The Doctor. Sep 2012 #196

He has super-secret BOA documents. randome Sep 2012 #202

The document dump is very serious... AntiFascist Sep 2012 #203

Well, yeah, soliders who break their oaths of service should be investigated. randome Sep 2012 #204

Australian diplomats are passing intelligence to US investigators.... AntiFascist Sep 2012 #206

There is no evidence -none- that extradition is on the table. randome Sep 2012 #210

According to a recent report by Reuters.... AntiFascist Sep 2012 #211

Well, 'divided' sort of implies there is no world-wide conspiracy to 'get' him then. randome Sep 2012 #213

When nations work together on national security matters... AntiFascist Sep 2012 #214

The only thing this is about is the legal matter in Sweden. Nothing else. randome Sep 2012 #216

In this sub-thread... AntiFascist Sep 2012 #222

IOW: The Doctor. Sep 2012 #340

of course you don't. n/t robinlynne Sep 2012 #179

Not true--his own lawyer testified to the fact that Mr. Assange left the country the msanthrope Sep 2012 #83

Perhaps you could narrow done the info you are referring to by page number? 1monster Sep 2012 #93

Here's a quote from the magistrate's findings: struggle4progress Sep 2012 #111

Kindly read my post again. More than a 'glance' this time. nt msanthrope Sep 2012 #145

The case was reopened 3 weeks before he left Sweden hack89 Sep 2012 #205

Well, pretty much so. The only DNA evidence found was a tiny spot of mitochondrial DNA 1monster Sep 2012 #99

That statement by wikileaks regarding mitochondrial DNA is incorrect. msanthrope Sep 2012 #136

That statement is not by Wikileaks and you apparently didn't read it reorg Sep 2012 #159

Oh, Jeebus..Assange groupies? That explains it. nt msanthrope Sep 2012 #163

not really reorg Sep 2012 #172

interesting facts. robinlynne Sep 2012 #181

Victim? malokvale77 Sep 2012 #84

The other "victim" refused to sign the interrogation report. Luminous Animal Sep 2012 #335

What does this mean? Proletariatprincess Sep 2012 #6

It means tama Sep 2012 #7

That is certainly what it looks like. robinlynne Sep 2012 #182

Everyone will decide what it means.. sendero Sep 2012 #8

Could there be unnamed evidence on it that links it to Assange...say fingerprints? HereSince1628 Sep 2012 #15

They have had the condom for a year now. robinlynne Sep 2012 #183

Yes but the link is about a defense report, might they only point to evidence that helps their case HereSince1628 Sep 2012 #232

"victim" was claiming he deliberately tore the condom magical thyme Sep 2012 #33

Well--not no DNA-- msanthrope Sep 2012 #58

Try again. No chromosomal DNA at all. Only a speck of mitochrdrial DNA which comes only 1monster Sep 2012 #103

I'm sorry--but that's from wikileaks, which is hardly neutral. Do you have any actual court msanthrope Sep 2012 #125

No it's not from Wikileaks and you still misrepresent it reorg Sep 2012 #162

It's from Assange groupies? That's somehow better? nt msanthrope Sep 2012 #165

see #172 reorg Sep 2012 #173

Doesn't mean anything really TorchTheWitch Sep 2012 #288

Wearing a condom without leaving any DNA - that's a neat trick. baldguy Sep 2012 #9

Not really, if the condom is removed before ejaculation. Ikonoklast Sep 2012 #53

That is ridiculous. JackRiddler Sep 2012 #68

Really. Ikonoklast Sep 2012 #72

Pre-ejaculate high density Sep 2012 #78

Pubic hair, skin cells, urine traces, sweat, HooptieWagon Sep 2012 #80

But it is so. JackRiddler Sep 2012 #176

What would an unused condom represent? nothing. robinlynne Sep 2012 #184

Uhhhh; greiner3 Sep 2012 #220

ewwwwww.......... KoKo Sep 2012 #10

Exactly. Something is rotten in Denmark. wilsonbooks Sep 2012 #30

No, no, no. Sweden, not Denmark. Something is rotten in Sweden! 1monster Sep 2012 #73

I wouldn't buy it on Intrade. aquart Sep 2012 #102

Kind of reminds me of the semen stained dress. malokvale77 Sep 2012 #87

for 12 days..... There is only one woman I know of who kept a blue dress. robinlynne Sep 2012 #186

how did these women end up with the use condom in both rapes? Heather MC Sep 2012 #12

This is, of course, a comment from Assange's lawyers, and we should not expect struggle4progress Sep 2012 #13

Unless, as Assange contends, this is a set up MannyGoldstein Sep 2012 #19

No: regardless of any of your theorizing, it's merely a claim from Assange's lawyers, and struggle4progress Sep 2012 #32

Not only that, but of course no conclusive matching can happen until Assange gives a DNA msanthrope Sep 2012 #59

" it is entirely inappropriate to attempt to try such a case in on a public bulletin board" Bluenorthwest Sep 2012 #21

"Someone" has a pager with a keyword search as near as I can tell.... Pholus Sep 2012 #26

There is a name for that program. I can't remember. Sorry.... truth2power Sep 2012 #34

I have never taken any stand on Assange's guilt or innocence with regard to the Swedish accusations struggle4progress Sep 2012 #31

Yes you have. You've been trying to convince everyone of his guilt on every thread. Alexander Sep 2012 #70

Provide a link showing I said he was guilty of the Swedish accusations. Or apologize. struggle4progress Sep 2012 #107

You couldn't find the requested link, could you? That's cuz it doesn't exist. struggle4progress Sep 2012 #312

A comment taken from the Police report. nt. druidity33 Sep 2012 #35

You are assuming that prosecutors don't break rules and turn wreckless for their own success... GetRidOfThem Sep 2012 #36

I'm not assuming anything about the prosecutors: if they have a weak case and overreach, struggle4progress Sep 2012 #43

you just pegged my irony meter! frylock Sep 2012 #101

I've always taken the PoV that the Swedish allegations should be handled by the Swedish system struggle4progress Sep 2012 #109

you have a POV that is obvious to anyone paying attention frylock Sep 2012 #297

No, this comes from SKL, Sweden's national forensic laboratory. 1monster Sep 2012 #110

"Lawyers for WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange have revealed ... " etc etc. "The report, which has struggle4progress Sep 2012 #113

Not on the links I provided... The links I provided included the Swedish lab reports. 1monster Sep 2012 #119

Not buying it -- cuz Wikileaks has a history of forgery. He can go clear it up in Sweden struggle4progress Sep 2012 #135

you continue to betray your bias frylock Sep 2012 #299

WikiLeaks claims responsibility for fake Bill Keller column ... struggle4progress Sep 2012 #304

dipsydoodle Diclotican Sep 2012 #14

"He deliberately ripped a condom so he could have unprotected sex with her." mainer Sep 2012 #16

The idea being he wants these women to have babies for him. Festivito Sep 2012 #25

But they can't conclusively match or not match his DNA until they have a sample, msanthrope Sep 2012 #64

Please provide a link that backs up your statement that he fled the day before he 1monster Sep 2012 #79

Testimony from his lawyer, Mr. Hurtig, pages 5, 6, and 7, in the msanthrope Sep 2012 #88

Answered this one before. At least provide a page number. 1monster Sep 2012 #94

Revelant paragraph from your link does not support your conclusions: 1monster Sep 2012 #115

Isn't it funny how they do that? ronnie624 Sep 2012 #121

Uh huh. Which is why I asked for specific pages on his 28 page link. S/He gave me three pages and 1monster Sep 2012 #123

No--I expected that you would read the direct and cross of the witness. nt msanthrope Sep 2012 #147

pbfft! you're just jealous that i actually give links that support my arguments struggle4progress Sep 2012 #170

Your nose has been rubbed in your deposits in these threads, repeatedly. ronnie624 Sep 2012 #283

There's not a link from you anywhere in the thread yet. I've provided various links struggle4progress Sep 2012 #294

There are only a certain number of available facts. ronnie624 Sep 2012 #303

There's not a link from you anywhere in the thread yet. I've provided various links struggle4progress Sep 2012 #306

Yes, you've posted lots of links, ronnie624 Sep 2012 #308

yep. robinlynne Sep 2012 #189

YOu need to read more than one paragraph--like where he's caught lying-- msanthrope Sep 2012 #124

I read the three pages you said supported your conclusions. They don't support your 1monster Sep 2012 #133

Upthread, you make the claim that mitochondria only exist in our hair and fingernails. msanthrope Sep 2012 #139

no s/he didn't n/t reorg Sep 2012 #160

Check out #103. nt msanthrope Sep 2012 #164

check out #99 and #162 and apologize n/t reorg Sep 2012 #169

Nice gossip link from the Daily Mail, citing snark from unnamed sources. Comrade Grumpy Sep 2012 #96

DUDE!! The OP is from the DAILY MAIL, too! Citing unamed sources. nt msanthrope Sep 2012 #128

I'm sure hundreds of women would love to have babies with him. So the allegation is that he wanted t robinlynne Sep 2012 #187

Seems ridiculous to me too. Live and Learn Sep 2012 #158

I know. how often do really intellegent, really rich men run around trying to get women pregnant? robinlynne Sep 2012 #190

--- don't let facts get in the way of a prosecution. jerseyjack Sep 2012 #17

And the Farce Goes ON Demeter Sep 2012 #20

I doubt Orwell is rolling - TBF Sep 2012 #28

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Why do people keep blaming the US for Swedish allegations? George II Sep 2012 #38

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The UK could have extradited him treestar Sep 2012 #66

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No, the UK could have extradited him treestar Sep 2012 #112

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Beyone belief! George II Sep 2012 #292

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Why should they? George II Sep 2012 #323

Oh, right! That's why he skipped Sweden while the authorities were talking to his lawyer to arrange struggle4progress Sep 2012 #305

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You're spouting nonsense. ronnie624 Sep 2012 #316

Because some want badly to believe in heroes. randome Sep 2012 #41

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WHAT?? George II Sep 2012 #269

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But Bill Clinton was an AMERICAN living in AMERICA... George II Sep 2012 #291

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So... George II Sep 2012 #314

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Ah, so now it's NOT the US, it's the Republican Party that wants him? George II Sep 2012 #324

The point is... AntiFascist Sep 2012 #325

Is there any viable PROOF that the US is behind it, or is this just paranoid theory? George II Sep 2012 #327

US is behind what exactly? AntiFascist Sep 2012 #328

That's an investigation into US-Australian intelligence exchanges, not rape in Sweden George II Sep 2012 #333

Wrong, it's an investigation of Assange's alleged wrongdoing against the US... AntiFascist Sep 2012 #337

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So? George II Sep 2012 #330

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Again with the "ignorant"? George II Sep 2012 #334

because of Bradley Manning. because of the national embarrassment. duh. robinlynne Sep 2012 #191

So the US Government go the Swedish Government to accuse him of rape? George II Sep 2012 #271

It appears the US will have to come up with other charges... KansDem Sep 2012 #24

The last time I checked the news reports.......... George II Sep 2012 #42

Do you really think this is only about rape allegations? KansDem Sep 2012 #45

Interesting...you mention Equador and the UK, not the US.. George II Sep 2012 #55

"No, Iraq was not behind September 11..." KansDem Sep 2012 #166

of course treestar Sep 2012 #219

yes, conspiracy theory.. frylock Sep 2012 #104

"Conspiracy theory?"!?!?!?!? FiveGoodMen Sep 2012 #322

Well I'll be. *sarcasm* nt TBF Sep 2012 #27

Wow, that is one clever dude. n/t 2on2u Sep 2012 #29

Did it contain any DNA? George II Sep 2012 #37

Your comments make it clear you know next to nothing about this. ronnie624 Sep 2012 #52

I have read about it, but why don't you enlighten me instead of insulting me? George II Sep 2012 #56

Your use of the 'conspiracy theory' meme doesn't make any sense ronnie624 Sep 2012 #76

Ah, I see.... George II Sep 2012 #97

Sweden is a highly subordinate client state, and close ally to the U.S. government. ronnie624 Sep 2012 #118

Why is it that when confronted with reality some here resort to insults? George II Sep 2012 #293

Why is it that some here scrupulously avoid discussing the topic? n/t ronnie624 Sep 2012 #296

The topic was being discussed.... George II Sep 2012 #315

And there is an example of what it's like to cross a 'true believer'. randome Sep 2012 #57

Yes, beware my wrath. ronnie624 Sep 2012 #91

Hey! No electricity! randome Sep 2012 #92

Good. Now I expect the anti-Assange threads to cease. Comrade_McKenzie Sep 2012 #39

You forgot the sarcasm thingie. n/t truth2power Sep 2012 #47

If he's obviously innocent, why not go to Sweden and clear this up? struggle4progress Sep 2012 #49

Because the evidence clears it up for him, therefore not requiring his traveling to another country? Occulus Sep 2012 #50

That is not how the legal system works treestar Sep 2012 #65

He's lost twice in Swedish court and four times, over a year and a half, in UK court struggle4progress Sep 2012 #138

His destiny is a dungeon in the United States. ronnie624 Sep 2012 #285

It's too bad if Assange has psychotic delusions, but the rest of us are not obliged to believe them struggle4progress Sep 2012 #307

Are you a psychiatrist who can diagnose from a distance? ronnie624 Sep 2012 #310

"If Assange has psychotic delusions, then the rest of us are not obliged to believe them" struggle4progress Sep 2012 #311

I'm *trying* to understand. ronnie624 Sep 2012 #313

third base frylock Sep 2012 #106

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His lawyers had their chance to argue that in court -- but they decided it was too crackpot struggle4progress Sep 2012 #141

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Actually, one of Assange's own witnesses told the court that onward-extradition was not possible struggle4progress Sep 2012 #148

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Res judicata. Let him go on to Sweden and settle matters there. struggle4progress Sep 2012 #151

what is your problem? robinlynne Sep 2012 #194

He's lost twice in Swedish court and four times, over a year and a half, in UK court struggle4progress Sep 2012 #197

Why do you think he has so many supporters? robinlynne Sep 2012 #245

Population of London: 8+ million. Number of Londoners who turned out for Assange's balcony speech: struggle4progress Sep 2012 #250

You really spend a lot of time disliking Julian Assange. Do you know him personally? robinlynne Sep 2012 #251

says you. robinlynne Sep 2012 #193

"... There was at one stage a suggestion that Mr Assange could be extradited to the USA struggle4progress Sep 2012 #195

or they didn't argue it because there is no case, hence no need. Did you know thaqt both women bragg robinlynne Sep 2012 #243

If there's no good case against him in Sweden, he'll be quickly cleared to go his merry way struggle4progress Sep 2012 #275

really? Is that a fact? robinlynne Sep 2012 #279

... The Swedish court system is characterized by foreseeability, fairness, humanism struggle4progress Sep 2012 #309

because of what happened to Bradley Manning! robinlynne Sep 2012 #192

There's still another case! treestar Sep 2012 #67

Bradley Manning was tortured. The good that julian did for the entire world is huge. It really robinlynne Sep 2012 #198

"... David Coombs, a lawyer for Pfc. Bradley Manning, ... said Manning was confined in such a way struggle4progress Sep 2012 #207

BTW, the accusations are not "the condom broke." One of the accusations is rape struggle4progress Sep 2012 #208

No there is not a rape accusation. there is a sexual misconduct accusation, and robinlynne Sep 2012 #237

... The position with offence 4 is different. This is an allegation of rape. The framework list struggle4progress Sep 2012 #246

There was no rape period. That woman bragged in writing about the event, and subsequently had sex robinlynne Sep 2012 #248

I expect the Swedish justice system can sort it out better than we can struggle4progress Sep 2012 #273

obviously not. robinlynne Sep 2012 #280

Why did she go back and sleep with him again several nights later if there was a problem? robinlynne Sep 2012 #249

That did not happen. joshcryer Sep 2012 #255

Wait, what? Where did that come from? Robb Sep 2012 #265

I dont have a link, but read it many many times. robinlynne Sep 2012 #266

I expect the Swedish justice system can sort it out better than we can struggle4progress Sep 2012 #274

There's more to the cases than that treestar Sep 2012 #217

Actually there is not more than that. Both women put in wriitng how happy they were that they had se robinlynne Sep 2012 #247

never has anybody been charged for not wearing a condom reorg Sep 2012 #225

espeically when you find out that the second woman subsequently went back to see him and had sex aga robinlynne Sep 2012 #238

So whose DNA is it? This could turn into a real soap opera... nt bananas Sep 2012 #44

What makes the most sense to me is that this was never about sex at all... truth2power Sep 2012 #46

So no DNA on one condom (Ms. A) But DNA on another condom (Ms. W) and both torn? msanthrope Sep 2012 #51

The article doesn't say both condoms were torn. ronnie624 Sep 2012 #60

Well, I hardly expect the defense to admit to that. We will have to wait until Assange gives a DNA msanthrope Sep 2012 #62

Great. So go back to Sweden and get that case dismissed. treestar Sep 2012 #63

He will never go back willingly---his DNA sample will be taken and msanthrope Sep 2012 #75

He should donate to a sperm bank! treestar Sep 2012 #82

I sincerely doubt he's supporting four children. But I bet Sweden has interviewed the msanthrope Sep 2012 #90

This article is nothing more than gossip. Let's hear from the mothers of these alledged children. 1monster Sep 2012 #85

That article is from the same source as the OP. nt msanthrope Sep 2012 #89

And so? Still extraneous and pejorative with no evidentual value. 1monster Sep 2012 #95

But you want to hear from the mothers, as your post upthread msanthrope Sep 2012 #129

Sorry. I forgot the "sarcasm" tag. No. Even were it true, it's not my business nor yours. 1monster Sep 2012 #131

Do you have no shame? nt tama Sep 2012 #134

Jesus Christ! You keep posting this snarky, largely unsourced gossip... Comrade Grumpy Sep 2012 #98

You realize I am using the SAME SOURCE as the OP, right? msanthrope Sep 2012 #126

If the condom isn't split, you must acquit... Kalidurga Sep 2012 #81

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What if he is masturbating, I might end up on the ceiling. lol nt. Kalidurga Sep 2012 #156

omg. robinlynne Sep 2012 #200

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Doesn't Assange have at least 1 son and 1 daughter? randome Sep 2012 #86

Do you have children? tama Sep 2012 #137

And why couldn't he be a father to them? randome Sep 2012 #154

At least 4 kids by different mothers, according to the OP's source. msanthrope Sep 2012 #140

I have an uncle just like this. randome Sep 2012 #153

Someone with that avatar should be much less judgmental.. girl gone mad Sep 2012 #201

i think having too many children actually is bad for the planet. robinlynne Sep 2012 #239

Well, his every sperm is sacred.... msanthrope Sep 2012 #264

Gross. slackmaster Sep 2012 #105

Subheadline: "But its thought another condom, submitted by the second alleged victim, does" pnwmom Sep 2012 #130

Oh--even better--the Daily Mail is now an approved source for Assange info. msanthrope Sep 2012 #144

I don't think that tabloid is a good source for anything. pnwmom Sep 2012 #146

True. But if his supporters think it's a credible source, I'm willing to explore msanthrope Sep 2012 #157

Why is that news? girl gone mad Sep 2012 #150

It's not news. It's a single element of the case. n/t pnwmom Sep 2012 #226

Now this is an interesting twist. nt cstanleytech Sep 2012 #143

This has been known since at least February 2011 muriel_volestrangler Sep 2012 #152

exactly, so why would the DM bring it up now? reorg Sep 2012 #167

I imagine the Mail wanted something to print muriel_volestrangler Sep 2012 #171

The "magic condom" jberryhill Sep 2012 #155

So he was trying to forcibly impregnate those women with someone else's DNA? 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #175

Strong case, weak case, doesn't matter. Assange has imprisoned himself. Dems to Win Sep 2012 #185

This has been debated numerous times elsewhere.... AntiFascist Sep 2012 #199

Thanks for the reply, yet I remain unconvinced Dems to Win Sep 2012 #234

Another point to make... AntiFascist Sep 2012 #257

I believe Australia confirmed the US intent already. robinlynne Sep 2012 #240

There are far too many assumptions in your post with nothing to support them. ronnie624 Sep 2012 #331

The UK extradition treaty also has provisions for 'temporary surrender' Dems to Win Sep 2012 #336

Sweden can transfer custody without extradition proceedings. ronnie624 Sep 2012 #338

Thanks for the link, but I am internet-challenged and can't watch videos (no hi speed connection Dems to Win Sep 2012 #339

well, did they at least find antiAssange DNA instead? fascisthunter Sep 2012 #188

up next Assange is identified as the guy in the rain coat on the grassy knoll. grantcart Sep 2012 #209

''If the DNA don't fit..... DeSwiss Sep 2012 #212

Classic Spycraft "Honey Pot" Operation Begins to Unravel. NoodleyAppendage Sep 2012 #218

It's too bad if Assange has psychotic delusions, but the rest of us are not obliged to believe them struggle4progress Sep 2012 #221

No. If this was a CIA op from the beginning, it would be a strong rape case. Good evidence, etc Dems to Win Sep 2012 #230

Wasn't one of his accusers a former NGO worker with organizational ties to the CIA? NoodleyAppendage Sep 2012 #231

She definitely knew what she was doing reorg Sep 2012 #235

Everybody read the link posted by noodley! Both women boasted in writing after sex with Assange. On robinlynne Sep 2012 #242

If either woman was concocting a rape trap, they would have acted like a 'legitimate rape' victim Dems to Win Sep 2012 #263

If you know anything about how the CIA sets rape traps reorg Sep 2012 #341

I would think the CIA would do a better job too. robinlynne Sep 2012 #241

This is what sabrina's been saying from the beginning! But this info was disappeared online riderinthestorm Sep 2012 #253

Assange's lawyers admitted Assange penetrated her without a condom. joshcryer Sep 2012 #256

But producing a condom with his DNA in it, weakens her case severely, if not entirely. riderinthestorm Sep 2012 #259

As is the case with very many rape cases. joshcryer Sep 2012 #261

Well, it demonstrates he was willing to use a condom. riderinthestorm Sep 2012 #262

Both women are pursuing charges. I'm not sure where you get that. joshcryer Sep 2012 #267

I haven't seen anything that demonstrates the women themselves are pursuing charges riderinthestorm Sep 2012 #268

That is incorrect. They are pursuing the charges themselves. joshcryer Sep 2012 #277

there is no such thing as "the terms of consent" in the Swedish rape law reorg Sep 2012 #276

The terms of consent are the only thing that gives consent. joshcryer Sep 2012 #278

I don't like this guy reorg Sep 2012 #281

"against a person's will" and... joshcryer Sep 2012 #282

Regarding whose condom is what, I believe it's the other way round reorg Sep 2012 #270

What? False charges are brought agaist someone who exposed rachel1 Sep 2012 #258

I don't see that it changes anything. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the story was that Mr. Assange... freshwest Sep 2012 #287