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JoeyT

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48. Inorite!

Reply to ProgressiveProfessor (Reply #20)

Tue Sep 18, 2012, 03:29 PM

Sep 2012

Matthew Shepard had a terrible time renting an apartment. Before bigots tied him to a post and beat him to death, I mean.

Uganda doesn't even have laws to make it easier for gay people to rent apartments. Well, and they keep trying to make it a capital crime with the help of our homegrown bigots.

I have to wonder if you live in the US bible belt, because I do and the problems go way beyond "Can't rent an apartment". It's a little easier in the cities, but in rural areas being gay will get you killed just as fast as living in Egypt. It won't be the cops doing the killing, they'll just help cover for the people that kill you. It's why every gay kid in rural areas denies it until they're old enough to move, then they GTFO of town as quickly as possible.

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Egyptian Warrants Issued For Terry Jones, Coptic Filmmaker [View all] Purveyor Sep 2012 OP

No way. No extradition for "blasphemy". I hope the State Department makes LeftinOH Sep 2012 #1

Agreed! Blasphemy is not illegal in the US /nt Bragi Sep 2012 #5

And if they TRY to impose religious law on us, we will shoot them with guns that jtuck004 Sep 2012 #17

Why would they do that, though? Scootaloo Sep 2012 #18

I never thought I would be defending Jones, but I absolutely agree with you. nt silvershadow Sep 2012 #27

I doubt anyone actually thinks the guy will be extradited. octothorpe Sep 2012 #69

I have to agree Canuckistanian Sep 2012 #86

I guess if the US can arrest Swedish nationals outside of this country dixiegrrrrl Sep 2012 #2

Who was that? nt hack89 Sep 2012 #23

Assange dixiegrrrrl Sep 2012 #26

America hasn't arrested Assange hack89 Sep 2012 #28

That's what they've got the UK for. nichomachus Sep 2012 #52

The UK has had Assange for two years hack89 Sep 2012 #57

Assange is not a Swedish National King_David Sep 2012 #54

Sigh. PavePusher Sep 2012 #72

"we" are? fascisthunter Sep 2012 #87

egypt has every right to kill them with drones.. frylock Sep 2012 #79

So, by that "logic" al Qaeda is free to send a team of operatives after Obama. Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2012 #92

take it up with whoever it was that wrote the policy frylock Sep 2012 #93

I'm guessing that would be the Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces of the United States Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2012 #95

Let's hope that he thought far enough ahead before he signed it then. Nihil Sep 2012 #96

It seems to me Frances Sep 2012 #3

What if the person shouting thought there was a fire? Bragi Sep 2012 #4

I imagine there are ways to alert people to a perceived fire-danger LanternWaste Sep 2012 #6

Hate speech, not blasphemy. Don't try to minimize it. Ash_F Sep 2012 #61

A truly American value Bragi Sep 2012 #62

It makes you wonder if every other first world country is wrong... Ash_F Sep 2012 #76

S do I understand you correctly? Bragi Sep 2012 #82

No you didn't Ash_F Sep 2012 #89

Blasphemy is not legal obviously in other countries. We generally don't consider sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #63

An important distinction Bragi Sep 2012 #68

I wasn't referring to America's laws. I was referring to Egypt's laws. sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #85

Seems to me your are wrong ProgressiveProfessor Sep 2012 #7

Yes, but they've not been debunked in this thread Bragi Sep 2012 #8

And of course there are new embellishments on each thread ProgressiveProfessor Sep 2012 #10

If the film makers made the movie with the intetnion of causing riots and... Agnosticsherbet Sep 2012 #13

Not quite so... Bragi Sep 2012 #15

My point was not their state of mind. Agnosticsherbet Sep 2012 #58

You might want to review some of the other posts on the USCS before you make that claim ProgressiveProfessor Sep 2012 #21

he did not break a U. S. law. We can't help what fanatics in other countries deem a crime . I hate demosincebirth Sep 2012 #32

If they burned our bibles would we be fanatics...the movonne Sep 2012 #55

I don't think so. Fundies might get their shorts in a knot...a guy might throw a brick at mosque, demosincebirth Sep 2012 #60

It's not even mumbling fire in an open field with almost no one around. hughee99 Sep 2012 #33

Really? Mocking someone's Sky Elf equals "Fire!" in a crowded room with limited exits? PavePusher Sep 2012 #73

Except that makes the other attendees very much afraid for their lives 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #75

Even bigots have free speech rights. iandhr Sep 2012 #9

Unfortunately... SoapBox Sep 2012 #11

Short of calling for violence Missycim Sep 2012 #36

This is like the Assange case cpwm17 Sep 2012 #12

bullies of Islam doing what they do best nt msongs Sep 2012 #14

I'm personally more concerned with the bullies of Christ right here at home. Comrade Grumpy Sep 2012 #16

The risks are no where near the same ProgressiveProfessor Sep 2012 #20

Not necessarily true... rexcat Sep 2012 #30

That is why I focus my weekend firearms classes on GLBTs and women ProgressiveProfessor Sep 2012 #39

Not at the hands of the State. Risk from criminals and haters is universal. Bluenorthwest Sep 2012 #78

And... rexcat Sep 2012 #83

Inorite! JoeyT Sep 2012 #48

There is a world of difference and quantifiable risk between Government laws and illegal actions ProgressiveProfessor Sep 2012 #50

Filing for an arrest warrant in accordance with the laws of their own nation? Scootaloo Sep 2012 #19

It's fine as Kabuki theatre Bragi Sep 2012 #37

I think it's more of an "arrest these guys if they visit" thing Scootaloo Sep 2012 #38

It also shows the "only the radical fringe are upset" meme is a lie ProgressiveProfessor Sep 2012 #40

A similar situation exists in germany, Professor Scootaloo Sep 2012 #43

Germany is considering banning it, not arrest warrants from what I have read ProgressiveProfessor Sep 2012 #53

Terry Jones will not be allowed into the country, from what I understand Scootaloo Sep 2012 #64

I have not read that, but even if true, it is still not a rioting mob ProgressiveProfessor Sep 2012 #65

What's your point? Bragi Sep 2012 #70

You said Germany would arrest them if they tried to enter the country glacierbay Sep 2012 #97

I would love to see a Red Notice from Interpol on Jones Panasonic Sep 2012 #22

How would that help anything? Bragi Sep 2012 #24

I highly doubt Terry Jones wants to go to the Middle East. dkf Sep 2012 #31

I am waiting for the Obama administration to react ProgressiveProfessor Sep 2012 #25

I'm waiting for the administration to even say the words "free speech" Bragi Sep 2012 #29

I think that SEC of STATE Clinton addressed the matter. julian09 Sep 2012 #34

I don't think she did Bragi Sep 2012 #35

Here you go: karynnj Sep 2012 #44

Thanks Bragi Sep 2012 #56

Not the ones I have read ProgressiveProfessor Sep 2012 #41

Funny thing... Scootaloo Sep 2012 #42

I'm not sure the muslim rioters would listen or care Marrah_G Sep 2012 #46

That's a good point... Bragi Sep 2012 #49

If you did explain to them they would not understand "free speech." They live by the Koran demosincebirth Sep 2012 #59

Why the hell would the president need to "react" to a completely symbolic gesture? Blue_Tires Sep 2012 #47

Because it is a real threat to US citizens. ProgressiveProfessor Sep 2012 #51

What "threat" is this? Is Egypt demanding extradition, or else a declaration of war? Blue_Tires Sep 2012 #66

The warrants did not happen without the concurrence of the highest level of the Egyptian gov ProgressiveProfessor Sep 2012 #67

But ultimately harmless...Not worth the paper it's printed on... Blue_Tires Sep 2012 #71

I think you conclusion about harmless is premature ProgressiveProfessor Sep 2012 #81

fatwa =/= arrest warrant Blue_Tires Sep 2012 #90

It is still a price on his head/death threat ordered by the then Iranian head of state ProgressiveProfessor Sep 2012 #91

LOL good luck with that Marrah_G Sep 2012 #45

If your religion requires that you arrest people for blasphemy then 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #74

I'd forgotten about the Florida Terry Jones Ken Burch Sep 2012 #77

Was the film maker an American citizen or was he still an Egyptian citizen? smirkymonkey Sep 2012 #80

Egypt has no jurisdiction davidn3600 Sep 2012 #84

stupid... if your belief is that strong, no ridicule should incite you... fascisthunter Sep 2012 #88

This is why the US has the 1st Amendment sakabatou Sep 2012 #94

Maybe Egypt is planning an Eichmann Extradition for these clowns Tom Ripley Sep 2012 #98