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34. Reading this thread it's surprising to see how many apologists

Thu Jan 12, 2012, 12:54 AM

Jan 2012

there are at DU for this unprofessional behavior. There is no middle ground people.
Professional exemplary soldiers don't do this type of stuff. Blaming the war and the
experience of being in Afghanistan doesn't excuse it either. These men have now
exacerbated an already terrible situation and given the enemy more cause to fight.
Amateur weekend warriors with over inflated egos is what I see here. The UCMJ
needs to be applied quickly and harshly to discourage these abominations our
troops sometimes commit.

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Video appears to show troops urinating on corpses [View all] Judi Lynn Jan 2012 OP

When you're a commander ... tabasco Jan 2012 #1

You betcha. They are criminal for doing that. How would we feel if it were the other way around. southernyankeebelle Jan 2012 #4

Is that worse than blowing their brains out? MrSlayer Jan 2012 #2

You open up this fucken door, called ..WAR..and.. Stuart G Jan 2012 #10

I don't know. . .. I think I would rather get pissed on than killed any time! BigDemVoter Jan 2012 #15

That was my first thought when I heard this... Critters2 Jan 2012 #82

Alive, they could pee back. boppers Jan 2012 #109

Weren't we supposed to be greeted as liberators, not urinators? Blue Owl Jan 2012 #3

Post removed Post removed Jan 2012 #5

Shut yer piehole, troll. nt stevenleser Jan 2012 #6

My father, my uncle, brother and cousin all Marines....let me tell you, this is cowardly Alameda Jan 2012 #7

Sealclubber has left the building HangOnKids Jan 2012 #9

Now there's a good move! Thanks. n/t Judi Lynn Jan 2012 #28

They represent us. Blacksheep214 Jan 2012 #73

Crap. Hold on, let me get my squirrel gun. chrisa Jan 2012 #8

If only we got as outraged by the killing of civilians as we do by the desecration of corpses. McCamy Taylor Jan 2012 #11

not to try to minimize the deaths of civilians Muskypundit Jan 2012 #30

What bullshit. The Stranger Jan 2012 #36

I have been there. Muskypundit Jan 2012 #74

Welcome to D.U. unionworks Jan 2012 #83

50% support for NATO, not the polls I have read happyslug Jan 2012 #91

Thank you for an informed debate and well thought out points. Muskypundit Jan 2012 #101

Not condoning this by any means, but I can't help think that you put a person in a war situation gateley Jan 2012 #12

Don't care. Already dead. Deep13 Jan 2012 #13

Even in war, there are rules. This violates them. War crimes. yardwork Jan 2012 #14

Corpse crimes? They're already dead. Deep13 Jan 2012 #16

We're not at war in Afghanistan anymore, remember? Symbolic is all we got. yardwork Jan 2012 #17

Symbols of a civilized society? If the answer is yes, America is doomed... sad sally Jan 2012 #29

Symbolism is everything. RoccoR5955 Jan 2012 #43

I suspect you would care a whole lot if the pissers and the pissed on Warren Stupidity Jan 2012 #45

Actually, I changed my mind. Deep13 Jan 2012 #115

And what do you think that symbol will do? AtheistCrusader Jan 2012 #67

Actually, I changed my mind. Deep13 Jan 2012 #116

Good call. AtheistCrusader Jan 2012 #136

Unsavory, Disrespectful, Disgusting, Gross but . . . a War Crime? BigDemVoter Jan 2012 #18

Not necessarily. Desecration of corpses can be a war crime. See this link: yardwork Jan 2012 #25

Ah, ok-- thanks! BigDemVoter Jan 2012 #26

So then by your logic, grave-robbing and necrophilia are no big deal Hugabear Jan 2012 #69

Disagreement is not malice. Deep13 Jan 2012 #107

Judi Lynn, thank you for being an active D.U.'er. mojowork_n Jan 2012 #19

DUers are not representative of American liberals. Deep13 Jan 2012 #20

Of course it is bad..It is all bad.. Stuart G Jan 2012 #21

With tears I imagine what it does to the psyche of the perpetrators Mira Jan 2012 #22

How about this...about war..War against Indians..OK. Sand Creek. Stuart G Jan 2012 #23

Heard on NPR today unionworks Jan 2012 #24

Then you are just like them. The Stranger Jan 2012 #37

"I" am not unionworks Jan 2012 #39

Whether or not the video is "real", we've done wrong... MrMickeysMom Jan 2012 #130

What do you mean, "we", unionworks Jan 2012 #131

just more recruitment ammunition for the taliban....this behaivor is stupid on so many levels....n/t unkachuck Jan 2012 #27

Just bring them home and let's try and rehab the World from this hell... midnight Jan 2012 #31

Twice in the last week unionworks Jan 2012 #32

War is hell Bozvotros Jan 2012 #33

+1 n/t ejbr Jan 2012 #41

Reading this thread it's surprising to see how many apologists go west young man Jan 2012 #34

Suprising to see unionworks Jan 2012 #40

Don't piss on dead people. Warren Stupidity Jan 2012 #46

Geez unionworks Jan 2012 #51

Sorry that you dont understand that this is indefensible behavior, Warren Stupidity Jan 2012 #52

I understand unionworks Jan 2012 #53

no obviously you don't understand. Warren Stupidity Jan 2012 #55

whatever. n/t unionworks Jan 2012 #56

scathingly brilliant argument, you win! n/t Scout Jan 2012 #58

So your yardstick is that "they do it so we can too"? Fokker Trip Jan 2012 #48

Sorryy unionworks Jan 2012 #50

Precisely how does one get to... LanternWaste Jan 2012 #63

I have tried to express unionworks Jan 2012 #84

The I may assume that implying DU posters are apologists for the Taliban is also braying too loudly? LanternWaste Jan 2012 #137

I'm afraid unionworks Jan 2012 #138

We often see what we want to see. LanternWaste Jan 2012 #139

This is very simple. It's not about the Taliban. It's about us. DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2012 #93

Scroll down unionworks Jan 2012 #94

That's no answer. That's you refusing to listen to the very small & important point I made. DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2012 #95

To quote Marvin Gaye unionworks Jan 2012 #98

War is hell, so let's go ahead and be as brutal as we can be. Is that the idea? DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2012 #100

Good point Alcibiades Jan 2012 #60

Here's the link to the USMC Scout Sniper requirements Alcibiades Jan 2012 #35

K'd & R'd DeathToTheOil Jan 2012 #38

Stupid asses! MaineDem Jan 2012 #42

MORE WAR! MORE WAR! MORE WAR! MORE WAR! N/T Hotler Jan 2012 #44

SMH Mr Dixon Jan 2012 #47

This is a really good point. Fokker Trip Jan 2012 #49

you got it. Scout Jan 2012 #59

+100000 - valid point, and very scary Hugabear Jan 2012 #71

Install these at USMC boot camp KansDem Jan 2012 #54

that's awesome n/t unionworks Jan 2012 #57

I would so buy one of those Hugabear Jan 2012 #70

This may even pose a problem as we try to end this war Alcibiades Jan 2012 #61

Well timed release at the time when talks are underway..... Evasporque Jan 2012 #62

The real story is the motive for publishing the video Islandlife Jan 2012 #64

"Why publicize the atrocities of war?" Hell Hath No Fury Jan 2012 #66

Because knowledge is an absolute good. LanternWaste Jan 2012 #68

Ummm, "ratings"? JustABozoOnThisBus Jan 2012 #72

Well, my hopes fell thru JustABozoOnThisBus Jan 2012 #111

Bingo unionworks Jan 2012 #133

Stupid, unprofessional - Hell Hath No Fury Jan 2012 #65

wow, stay classy USMC... deacon_sephiroth Jan 2012 #75

Talking tough from the back row Badsam Jan 2012 #77

It's harder to piss on people from the back row. boppers Jan 2012 #112

At any time, you may join the Marines Badsam Jan 2012 #76

Like our guys never blow up innocent people. RoccoR5955 Jan 2012 #78

'Way to defend war crimes. EFerrari Jan 2012 #80

Pretty damn disgusting. polly7 Jan 2012 #79

I would say to the people doing that to the dead 47of74 Jan 2012 #81

Few Marines I have known unionworks Jan 2012 #85

yep... unionworks Jan 2012 #86

That's not "our dead". that's a blackwater merc. DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2012 #96

????? What were the nationalities of the four they mutilated, and whose flag were they operating cherokeeprogressive Jan 2012 #105

They're mercenaries. They kill and die for money DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2012 #108

As you well know.... unionworks Jan 2012 #127

They weren't in uniform, or in military vehicles. boppers Jan 2012 #113

there are several unionworks Jan 2012 #129

And that's why they don't get protections. boppers Jan 2012 #132

Absolutely correct unionworks Jan 2012 #134

I read the story unionworks Jan 2012 #122

What is the precise and relevant reason that one's morality should be predicated LanternWaste Jan 2012 #140

like in Somolia... unionworks Jan 2012 #87

I don't believe the Taliban operated in Somalia circa 1992 DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2012 #97

A historic point... unionworks Jan 2012 #106

That's interesting, hadn't heard it before, but I believe you DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2012 #110

And you politely unionworks Jan 2012 #118

So you want to go to school and do a mans job? unionworks Jan 2012 #88

Terrible photos of terrible crimes. But why is it you think we should become animals? DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2012 #99

You sound reasonable unionworks Jan 2012 #102

Thank you. And I'll just leave it there. n/t DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2012 #104

wearing makeup unionworks Jan 2012 #89

You appear to be making an argument that one crime, by one person, deserves another crime... boppers Jan 2012 #117

I'm not into arguing unionworks Jan 2012 #119

Are you familiar with the concept: boppers Jan 2012 #120

I have associated unionworks Jan 2012 #121

I was talking about the Taliban, but your response is thought provoking, anyways. boppers Jan 2012 #124

And that was a very insightful unionworks Jan 2012 #125

I took a non-violence vow at 14. boppers Jan 2012 #128

The argument I'm making is I dont Badsam Jan 2012 #141

The Real Story unionworks Jan 2012 #90

Killing them is honorable. Puglover Jan 2012 #92

Long ago unionworks Jan 2012 #103

I've changed my mind on this. Deep13 Jan 2012 #114

Thank you unionworks Jan 2012 #123

Wow, thanks. nt Deep13 Jan 2012 #126

You must earn respect and the mere fact Badsam Jan 2012 #142

So do our people. Deep13 Jan 2012 #144

One more thing on respect, let us not forget Badsam Jan 2012 #143

What the hell are you talking about? Deep13 Jan 2012 #145

Okinawa Chuck unionworks Jan 2012 #135