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12. For both traditional reasons and the fact it blunts criticism of the crown itself, she goes along

Mon Oct 14, 2019, 10:24 AM

Oct 2019

with the PM. Constitutionalists maintain she COULD have refused Boris' demand for prorogue AND she still retains the authority to reject to sign (and thus enact) any legislation passed by parliament. The fact the latter has not been done since the 1700s doesn't render the power null and void. The safer course for the throne is always to go along with the PM as it then deflects all criticism to the PM and parliament. That doesn't mean she is constitutionally POWERLESS. She chooses to be for self-preservation.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/boris-johnson-asked-the-queen-to-suspend-parliament-why-didnt-she-just-say-no/2019/08/30/285aff50-cb2b-11e9-9615-8f1a32962e04_story.html

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Unseemly as hell, even if this is not unexpected. My fantasies had Liz becoming the monarch of old hlthe2b Oct 2019 #1

Thus spake Elizabeth, Regina, last monarch of the British "Empire" Miguelito Loveless Oct 2019 #2

Hear Hear jpak Oct 2019 #3

No she didn't, it is not her speech, and she literally has to give it obamanut2012 Oct 2019 #9

Thanks elleng Oct 2019 #14

The story quotes "the Queen's speech" Miguelito Loveless Oct 2019 #15

That is indeed the role of the modern British monarch DavidDvorkin Oct 2019 #21

And what compels her to speak it aloud? Miguelito Loveless Oct 2019 #26

The constitutional tradition DavidDvorkin Oct 2019 #28

You do understand how utterly ridiculous that sounds, right? Miguelito Loveless Oct 2019 #34

You can pontificate and posture all you want DavidDvorkin Oct 2019 #39

And anyone who blindly follows such a system Miguelito Loveless Oct 2019 #40

Also crushingly depressing, Miguelito Loveless Oct 2019 #41

-- or give up millions of pounds of income. 3Hotdogs Oct 2019 #24

Actually, Miguelito Loveless Oct 2019 #27

Agreed. The Queen is not an autocrat. She is a constitutional monarch and the steward lapucelle Oct 2019 #30

It seems to me Miguelito Loveless Oct 2019 #35

Let's hear what everyone in government and The People have to say, too. abqtommy Oct 2019 #4

As soon as the Queen's Speech is over, Commons starts to debate it brooklynite Oct 2019 #5

Might be time for her to step down cuz she's living in a dream world. cstanleytech Oct 2019 #6

England needs its monarchs, the problem is the monarchy is not engaged enough in politics Perseus Oct 2019 #10

Many other countries get slong BuddhaGirl Oct 2019 #13

I didn't say get rid of the monarchy I said perhaps it's time for her to step down cstanleytech Oct 2019 #17

I find the critics of the queen here somewhat ironic. GulfCoast66 Oct 2019 #7

I would agree that monarchy should not have absolute power, but they should have deep knowledge Perseus Oct 2019 #11

For both traditional reasons and the fact it blunts criticism of the crown itself, she goes along hlthe2b Oct 2019 #12

If she disagrees with the text Miguelito Loveless Oct 2019 #16

I'll bet in her long time in office, she's given Queen's Speeches which Denzil_DC Oct 2019 #22

One more time Miguelito Loveless Oct 2019 #25

The Queen is NOT a person with free will. Loki Liesmith Oct 2019 #29

Really? Miguelito Loveless Oct 2019 #32

You can repeat your line as often as you want. Denzil_DC Oct 2019 #31

Again, nothing compels her Miguelito Loveless Oct 2019 #33

The fact she's queen compels her. Denzil_DC Oct 2019 #36

Right, she has no free will Miguelito Loveless Oct 2019 #37

Then why don't you write her a letter and scold her some more? Denzil_DC Oct 2019 #38

So, by this logic Miguelito Loveless Oct 2019 #42

Well, you can invent your own logic to shore up your arguments all you like. Denzil_DC Oct 2019 #43

I have not "invented" any logic Miguelito Loveless Oct 2019 #44

Again, the woman is pretty much beyond the law Miguelito Loveless Oct 2019 #45

Damn straight I don't like monarchs. I'm a American it's in my blood. rockfordfile Oct 2019 #19

I was discussing this with a British friend of mine melm00se Oct 2019 #46

Well, I detest the idea of people being subjects Politicub Oct 2019 #47

I find nothing I disagree with in your statement. GulfCoast66 Oct 2019 #48

People get comfortable with what they're used to Politicub Oct 2019 #49

They support a bunch of tourism jobs. So I guess not all bad. GulfCoast66 Oct 2019 #50

Boris Johnson wrote her speech dalton99a Oct 2019 #8

Again, she has the option Miguelito Loveless Oct 2019 #18

the monarchy is a tourist attraction whose primary function is to generate income nt msongs Oct 2019 #20

"My government" or "The government"? mwooldri Oct 2019 #23