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Tikki

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85. I quit smoking after realizing that it was a losing battle...

Thu Sep 20, 2012, 12:37 PM

Sep 2012

It was a habit with which it's time had passed.
No one won but the tobacco company. The nanny state only wins by
extra taxes and less tobacco related disease...but when no one smokes
anymore, that is the true goal.
I don't drink sugar soda..so maybe I am not really a part of this.
I do have grandchildren and if I lived in NYC I would follow the
guideline hoping that my family would be part of a making a difference.

Tikki

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(New York City) Health Board Approves Ban on Large Sugary Drinks [View all] alp227 Sep 2012 OP

We have to ban these drinks to compensate for the massive subsidies 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #1

Yeah, well, since NYC can't control that, I suppose they are doing the next best thing. randome Sep 2012 #4

I'm pretty sure this will accomplish nothing. 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #6

How about ending cornfare? alp227 Sep 2012 #26

Yet another reason to never set foot in NYC. MadrasT Sep 2012 #2

yup and if any new yorkers want them then here in va we have big gulp loophole loli phabay Sep 2012 #17

Aren't the drinks high fructose corn syrupy and not sugary? nt valerief Sep 2012 #3

There is sugar AND HFCS. alp227 Sep 2012 #27

While I don't agree with eliminating people's right to choose the larger sizes of drinks qanda Sep 2012 #5

Diabetes is not caused by merely drinking too much soda, though. Jennicut Sep 2012 #16

I think that this is a brave decision by New York and I applaud their determination... Tikki Sep 2012 #7

The line between brave and stupid may be thin... davidthegnome Sep 2012 #21

...and some, especially parents, won't be doing as you do... Tikki Sep 2012 #31

The ones that already don't davidthegnome Sep 2012 #58

I may be sounding like a freeper or libertarian right here, but I say let consumers decide! alp227 Sep 2012 #28

Right, because nobody can order another 16-ounce drink... MercutioATC Sep 2012 #77

Absolutely...but when a little one asks for money for a soda... Tikki Sep 2012 #81

This law doesn't apply to convience stores. MercutioATC Sep 2012 #82

You could be correct or like in California where restaurant owners were.. Tikki Sep 2012 #83

It's clear who wins this battle. The nanny state. MercutioATC Sep 2012 #84

I quit smoking after realizing that it was a losing battle... Tikki Sep 2012 #85

So you obviously have the ability to resist temptation for your greater good. MercutioATC Sep 2012 #86

There is childhood obesity...common sense would lead parents to try to look... Tikki Sep 2012 #87

That wasn't my question. MercutioATC Sep 2012 #88

Again, some are overwhelmed with a situation that seems out of their control.. Tikki Sep 2012 #89

There's nothing wrong with working toward a cultural shift. MercutioATC Sep 2012 #90

"Anyone with common sense" would realize soda is poison. randome Sep 2012 #91

But when I was young smoking was fabulous..exotic and romantic.. Tikki Sep 2012 #92

This is a victory christx30 Sep 2012 #8

Soda consumption dkhbrit Sep 2012 #9

To a type 2 diabetic, fruit juice = soda Mopar151 Sep 2012 #13

If it was THAT simple undergroundpanther Sep 2012 #40

Well said. n/t Psephos Sep 2012 #43

Although genetics plays a role, it isn't the sole determinant nobodyspecial Sep 2012 #67

Fucking Nanny Bloomy. Mr.Turnip Sep 2012 #10

The Nanny State is alive and well in NYC. Grave Grumbler Sep 2012 #11

Probably violates the interstate commerce clause, but closeupready Sep 2012 #12

How does this law interfere with other states' commerce? alp227 Sep 2012 #51

This is absolutely insane oberliner Sep 2012 #14

.... Just, uh, ..... davidthegnome Sep 2012 #15

Off to the reeducation camp with you! n/t rayofreason Sep 2012 #49

What's to stop me from ordering 2 drinks? AmyDeLune Sep 2012 #18

Bloomberg will be there to stare at you in a really uncomfortable way. MercutioATC Sep 2012 #78

stupid, stupid, waste of time and resources. n/t Scout Sep 2012 #19

The precedent being set by this davidthegnome Sep 2012 #20

Once done with smokers they needed a new enemy The Straight Story Sep 2012 #23

Regarding smokers, I don't want others blowing smoke in my face. alp227 Sep 2012 #29

But you're good with cars belching toxic gases by the streetful? Psephos Sep 2012 #44

It is NOT okay to poison the atmosphere and there is quite a lot of effort underway to lessen that. randome Sep 2012 #46

So drivers are now equivalent to entitled buttcracks who blow their smoke towards everyone? alp227 Sep 2012 #52

Not unconstitutional, no CreekDog Sep 2012 #22

Which part of the constitution allows such laws? alp227 Sep 2012 #53

NYC and the state of California were ahead of the curve on transfats. I knew none of this before. proverbialwisdom Sep 2012 #24

Let the People Dance! AndyTiedye Sep 2012 #25

Dude, fix your code, everything ng after 'let the people dance' alp227 Sep 2012 #30

I like it davidthegnome Sep 2012 #32

Comes from Trying to Dance in Stadium Seating AndyTiedye Sep 2012 #33

I'll take 2 medium sodas please. rayofreason Sep 2012 #34

It will encourage some to think twice. randome Sep 2012 #35

"Think twice" hah! Order twice more like it. rayofreason Sep 2012 #36

Holding two sodas in your hand instead of one... randome Sep 2012 #37

Just sell a 32 oz. cup for a penny with the two sodas. rayofreason Sep 2012 #48

Public service announcement example is at reply 28. alp227 Sep 2012 #54

How is anyone FORCING anyone to do anything in regards to this? randome Sep 2012 #59

That's soon to be the "Bloomberg Special" in NYC restaurants. MercutioATC Sep 2012 #79

Spam deleted by Paulie (MIR Team) maratmuradyan Sep 2012 #38

you know an easy way for businesses to get around this? WooWooWoo Sep 2012 #39

calories... undergroundpanther Sep 2012 #41

Psst. Hey tubby, wanna buy a big sugary drink? olddad56 Sep 2012 #42

Gangs bootlegging supersize soda???? alp227 Sep 2012 #55

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Now you have to buy two soda's to wash down that Mega-Supreme NY Pizza - lynne Sep 2012 #47

Impose a one donut per cop sugar restriction. Remmah2 Sep 2012 #50

I was against it before. Now, I really don't mind. NYC Liberal Sep 2012 #56

Did they shut Free Republic down? TomClash Sep 2012 #57

Seriously, when you subscribe to nothing but hatred, closeupready Sep 2012 #60

What if Berkeley banned restaurants from serving meat? alp227 Sep 2012 #61

You might make the wrong choice, so we must remove your ability to choose. Throd Sep 2012 #62

since when was it the state's responsibility to control adults' dietary choices? alp227 Sep 2012 #63

It isn't Throd Sep 2012 #64

Are we really comparing soda to meat? TomClash Sep 2012 #65

No, I just don't want government dictating adults' dietary choices. alp227 Sep 2012 #66

Is it working in your county? I doubt it. TomClash Sep 2012 #69

Good! Nobody should drink that much soda so ought to be banned rachel1 Sep 2012 #68

Of course no one should drink that much soda, alp227 Sep 2012 #70

No one is forbidding you from poisoning your body however you choose. randome Sep 2012 #71

Are adult consumers not smart enough to make their own dietary choices? alp227 Sep 2012 #72

Tobacco. Seat belts. Jaywalking. Turn signals. Motorcycle helmets. randome Sep 2012 #73

Comparing portion size control with seat belt laws now? alp227 Sep 2012 #74

I Often Get 1 Big Soda for the Two of Us AndyTiedye Sep 2012 #75

Attention all Yonkers drug store owners bluestateguy Sep 2012 #76

Kudo's to mike Bloomberg, most people will eat what's in front of them,& not ask for refills graham4anything Sep 2012 #80