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thesquanderer

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15. She said that word, but in what context?
Thu Oct 24, 2019, 11:04 AM
Oct 2019

I believe this transcript is correct, edited to the pertinent parts...

Plouffe: "So {Trump's} going to try and drive the people not to vote for him but just to say, ‘you know, you can't vote for them either.’ And that seems to be, I think, to the extent that I can define a strategy, their key strategy right now."

Clinton: "Well, I think there's going to be two parts and I think it's going to be the same as 2016: ‘Don't vote for the other guy. You don't like me? Don't vote for the other guy because the other guy is going to do X, Y and Z or the other guy did such terrible things...They're also going to do third party again. And I'm not making any predictions but I think they've got their eye on somebody who is currently in the Democratic primary and are grooming her to be the third party candidate. She's the favorite of the Russians.

The question is about who the words "they" and "their" refer to -- it's ambiguous, which is what caused the confusion in interpretation. But in the full context, it makes sense if "they" and "their" refer to Trump and his Republicans. Yes, Clinton is talking about someone being groomed, and she talks about that person being the favorite of the Russians, but the quote does not actually say the Russians are the ones doing the grooming. It is, at least, open to interpretation. It can be "Republican operatives are trying to groom someone for a third party run. This person they're grooming is a favorite of the Russians."

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Not the first time tRump-Republicons have confused themselves with Russians. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2019 #1
Republicans....Russians.... Easy to get them confused. Chakaconcarne Oct 2019 #2
Isn't there audio? Should put this to rest. n/t Fix The Stupid Oct 2019 #3
Yes, you can hear the podcast. The transcriptions I saw were accurate. Some interpretations weren't. thesquanderer Oct 2019 #6
ok... I listened...I clearly heard her say "russians" - what am I missing here? n/t Fix The Stupid Oct 2019 #10
She said that word, but in what context? thesquanderer Oct 2019 #15
Oh, for fuck's sake, NYT. For fuck's sake. DetlefK Oct 2019 #4
Not so out of the ordinary thesquanderer Oct 2019 #12
"Apparently"? When did apparently become LBN on a 3 day story based on what has been misreporting still_one Oct 2019 #5
A third time? It looks to me like just another re-reporting of the same correction. thesquanderer Oct 2019 #7
First time they "misquoted". Second time they said they misquoted, Third time they now say she still_one Oct 2019 #9
My bad. I thought it was pretty well tracked and a fairly germane development. Anon-C Oct 2019 #8
I'm afraid it's going to be locked anyway OKNancy Oct 2019 #16
Tulsi Gabbard has proven herself to be unfit for office. ChiTownDenny Oct 2019 #11
Well, it's hard to keep the two apart anymore. NellieStarbuck Oct 2019 #13
The Drama Continues. jalan48 Oct 2019 #14
Locking - this should go in the primary forum OKNancy Oct 2019 #17
Same same. SergeStorms Oct 2019 #18
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