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39. Yeah, but the ridiculous spin and minimizing on tv at the time didn't help.

Thu Sep 20, 2012, 09:15 PM

Sep 2012

The tv bots did their best to excuse those events in the eyes of the American people. Shoot, a lot of of DUers tried pretty hard here as well.

I am not going criticize this woman for taking a stand now. More need to do like her and be given our support.

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She volunteered. iandhr Sep 2012 #1

She was lied to just like a draftee /nt Ash_F Sep 2012 #2

That makes..........no sense. cstanleytech Sep 2012 #4

Makes sense to me. Go ask General Stanley McCrystal for clarification. n/t Jumping John Sep 2012 #5

No, I'll ask you to explain how can a draftee be lied to in order to get them to join when cstanleytech Sep 2012 #9

There were plenty of lies about Iraq and the need for the war. Are you aware of Jumping John Sep 2012 #15

Are you serious??? Recruiters are famous for lying adigal Sep 2012 #27

OMG!! cstanleytech Sep 2012 #29

Are you aware that not all who served in Vietnam were draftees? And do you think that those Jumping John Sep 2012 #40

Are you aware you are doing the same thing yet again? cstanleytech Sep 2012 #41

Out of curiosity... Lightbulb_on Sep 2012 #36

I know the kid messed up, but he was an honest young man adigal Sep 2012 #45

Let me put it another way Ash_F Sep 2012 #31

So did you serve in Vietnam and Iraq for you to be so certain about this lady and Jumping John Sep 2012 #3

I believe that iandhr might be right John and cstanleytech Sep 2012 #7

I believe that it was and is her duty to not participate in a war crime. And the trial of Jumping John Sep 2012 #10

According to wiki she didnt serve in abu graib nor gitmo but rather she was a gate guard cstanleytech Sep 2012 #11

The entire war is a war crime. But I am sure that you will never see how that is. Jumping John Sep 2012 #13

OH course, I fully supported the invasion and thought the intel was rock solid cstanleytech Sep 2012 #14

So which branch of the service did you serve with? Jumping John Sep 2012 #17

Much like a good % of the DU here served probably. cstanleytech Sep 2012 #19

No I didn't. iandhr Sep 2012 #18

Many joined because the gun held to their head was not being able to find work. But judge people as Jumping John Sep 2012 #23

she did the right thing.... mike_c Sep 2012 #6

No, the right thing would have been not signing up in the first place. cstanleytech Sep 2012 #8

She made the decision about Iraq after serving in Iraq. Saying that a person who volunteers to serve Jumping John Sep 2012 #12

Thats BS. cstanleytech Sep 2012 #16

Agree 100%. n/t PavePusher Sep 2012 #20

So you make the point that she should have decided that the war was FUBAR and should not have Jumping John Sep 2012 #21

No, I am making the point your excuses arent making sense. cstanleytech Sep 2012 #25

No you make no sense. You judge this soldier on selected thinking based Jumping John Sep 2012 #26

No, actually I am actually being pretty lenient to both as cstanleytech Sep 2012 #30

Ever heard the phrase, "I was just following orders, mein herr" n/t Jumping John Sep 2012 #22

And participating in a war is always such a fun endeavor, too. For everyone involved. nt Jumping John Sep 2012 #24

It's never too late to start doing the right thing. Ash_F Sep 2012 #32

You would think that the abu ghraib photos from 2 years before she enlisted would have removed those cstanleytech Sep 2012 #38

Yeah, but the ridiculous spin and minimizing on tv at the time didn't help. Ash_F Sep 2012 #39

I guess I'll never understand how people could have willingly blinded themselves cstanleytech Sep 2012 #43

Even if she volunteered, she is not required to participate in an ongoing war crime coalition_unwilling Sep 2012 #28

No one should be forced to kill another against their will LiberalLovinLug Sep 2012 #33

If this was a case where she was ordered so to assist in torturing someone or shooting them cstanleytech Sep 2012 #34

I don't get it... Blue_Tires Sep 2012 #35

It's Harper CreekDog Sep 2012 #37

Canada, you really need to get rid of Harper's ass. DeSwiss Sep 2012 #42

Is Canada still morally superior to the US? I've lost track. Pterodactyl Sep 2012 #44