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happyslug

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40. That is NOT my experience with my State's Children, Youth and Families (CYF).
Thu Jan 12, 2012, 01:03 PM
Jan 2012

Now, over the last few years we have had a scandal over Juvenile Court (A Couple of Dauphin County Judges were taking brides to send Juveniles to a private prison in Allegheny County even if the case did NOT call for such imprisonment) but Children, Youth and Families were NOT involved in that Scandal.

One of the problems CYF has, is instructions from the State to minimize costs, thus placement with parents are preferred, for the amount set for Welfare in Pennsylvania is much lower then the grant to a Family that takes in a Foster Child (and the Local Welfare office refuses to tell relatives that they can get Foster Care money for the child, if they refuse to take the child without foster care). CYF hopes the relative takes the child without the Foster care Grant for any welfare the family gets for the child is much less then the Foster Care Grant for the family. Any Welfare program involving Children, the Federal Government will pay 1/2, but the state has to pay the other half, thus the state to save money prefer children on Welfare as opposed to Foster Care.

At the same time, the law is quite clear, the child has to be put in the care of the nearest available relative. In most cases this is an aunt or uncle, or grandparent of the Child. Unless that relative refuses the child unless they get Foster Care, they can NOT get Foster Care. Yes, relatives have to be cold blooded about this, for that is what the State is (i.e. more worried about money then the welfare of the child). Foster care is three to four times what Welfare will pay in Pennsylvania, but Foster Care will only be granted to a family member if the relative refuses to take the child without it.

Except for the problems in regards to Foster Care to Relatives, my local CYF is noted for providing assistance to families, and this is also done by my County judge who hears the cases of CYF.

Just pointing out the problems you claim, I have NOT seen locally and I deal with CYF on an almost monthly basis (I do a lot of Custody and Visitation Law, and that is related to Children, Youth and Families). CYF has problems, mostly do to a lack of funding (State Legislators and Congressmen talk about helping children, but tend to vote against it when it comes to spending actual money to help Children).

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Like something out of Dickens. People jailed because they didn't have health insurance. yardwork Jan 2012 #1
I don't think this is about not having insurance frazzled Jan 2012 #4
I'm so sick of this "Emergency room is free" bullshit. evilkumquat Jan 2012 #5
So you let your kid die frazzled Jan 2012 #10
Not saying let the kids die, nor saying these parents aren't at least partial guilty evilkumquat Jan 2012 #15
Well, I agree; I know they are not free frazzled Jan 2012 #17
what happens when you suspect your child is seriously ill... lame54 Jan 2012 #34
what happens when you suspect your child is seriously ill... unapatriciated Jan 2012 #35
YOU know your children better than their doctors do leftynyc Jan 2012 #38
It was my threat to sue that finally got the blood test done. unapatriciated Jan 2012 #45
They made no such choice spotbird Jan 2012 #23
You are correct and any sensible person will not use the ER Tumbulu Jan 2012 #27
If they thought he had swollen glands, they would not take him to the emergency room. JDPriestly Jan 2012 #11
See expanded information below, plus they pled guilty frazzled Jan 2012 #13
They were jailed because they criminally neglected their children--see post 6 below.nt msanthrope Jan 2012 #8
I appreciate the additional info. Thanks. yardwork Jan 2012 #22
Who TF thought it would be a good idea to prosecute these people Gman Jan 2012 #2
Six kids, none in school--moved to avoid Child Protective Services--see post 6. msanthrope Jan 2012 #7
That gives a different perspective on the matter. JDPriestly Jan 2012 #12
Hang the bastards Gman Jan 2012 #21
agreed. there has to be more to this. :( roguevalley Jan 2012 #3
These bastards deserved more time--More info on case-- msanthrope Jan 2012 #6
Thanks for this. Wait Wut Jan 2012 #9
From the Wash. Post: Tunkamerica Jan 2012 #14
you left quite a bit out- here from your link azurnoir Jan 2012 #16
there's 3 paragraph limit Tunkamerica Jan 2012 #19
But when an insurance company does it... Duer 157099 Jan 2012 #18
If they had claimed they were relying on prayer... Deep13 Jan 2012 #20
something no one here has mentioned the family was being under the auspices azurnoir Jan 2012 #24
the washington post article said that their social worker told them not to get the lump Tunkamerica Jan 2012 #25
The same article says that social services had been involved since July of 2007 azurnoir Jan 2012 #26
How believable is that? LisaL Jan 2012 #28
but if that is true how was it that social services was involved for at least 6 months azurnoir Jan 2012 #29
The LAST thing CPS does is help families mntleo2 Jan 2012 #30
Thank you well said n/t azurnoir Jan 2012 #33
CPS workers are not well paid bluestateguy Jan 2012 #37
It is not the CPS worker for which I am speaking ... mntleo2 Jan 2012 #41
What makes them dangerous is enormous power + little understanding 2 Much Tribulation Jan 2012 #44
Thank-you, you said it all in a nutshell! nt mntleo2 Jan 2012 #48
That is NOT my experience with my State's Children, Youth and Families (CYF). happyslug Jan 2012 #40
Relatives are usually the LAST consideration for these kids mntleo2 Jan 2012 #42
This is a PN parent story you might "like".... mntleo2 Jan 2012 #47
+1 for being very VERY true nt 2 Much Tribulation Jan 2012 #43
Just not enough information Stonepounder Jan 2012 #31
more articles with background info alp227 Jan 2012 #32
These folks are the Teabaggers' and Libertarians' Dream Parents Tsiyu Jan 2012 #36
they're picketing Planned Parenthood clinics in the name of "LIFE! LIFE!" alp227 Jan 2012 #46
But under no circumstances - once you're out of the uterus- dare Tsiyu Jan 2012 #49
If we had an Obama's health care plan Auntie Bush Jan 2012 #39
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