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Major Nikon

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21. The consequence to teaching your kids to think for themselves is they will do so

Sun Sep 23, 2012, 04:22 AM

Sep 2012

I never had any such dramatic moments with my kids as you describe, but there were instances with my son where he told me he was going to defy me and did so. I wasn't going to restrain him or otherwise prevent him from doing whatever it was (I'm not sure I could if I tried once he got older), but there were consequences for his actions which he knew were coming. I never really saw this as a bad thing. Teenagers want to be independent. That is actually a good thing. It may manifest itself in bad ways occasionally, but it's better than the alternative which is to raise a kid that gets beaten into submission and never learns how to think for themselves and take responsibility for their own actions.

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Mom angry that male vice principal spanked child [View all] davidn3600 Sep 2012 OP

Maybe she shouldn't have agreed to allow it. MrSlayer Sep 2012 #1

Beat the balls off this dude? oberliner Sep 2012 #49

Yeah, assault and battery is a crime. MrSlayer Sep 2012 #75

Did you read the article? Paddling students is legal in Texas demwing Sep 2012 #76

What's good for one should be good for the other. MrSlayer Sep 2012 #78

Rage demwing Sep 2012 #81

Haha! MrSlayer Sep 2012 #84

Look out, we got a bad ass over here! Shitty Mitty Sep 2012 #82

It is still assault and battery, humilation, and in this case obamanut2012 Sep 2012 #110

This was not "merely a slight tap on the bottom". rug Sep 2012 #127

It is one of the things that makes the USA look backwards to the outside world CreekDog Sep 2012 #131

Pretty sure he didn't commit any crime oberliner Sep 2012 #132

What century are these people living in? Scairp Sep 2012 #123

I agree oberliner Sep 2012 #133

Minors cannot consent to a beating obamanut2012 Sep 2012 #109

Texas is weird. (no offense to any Texans here, I'm sure you aren't that wierd) n/t Ed Suspicious Sep 2012 #2

Ugh, I remember paddlings... Scootaloo Sep 2012 #3

Proverbs 13:24? caraher Sep 2012 #34

yep heaven05 Sep 2012 #38

Solomon's son didn't turn out so well. Mrs. Ted Nancy Sep 2012 #40

Except the rod refers to a shepherd's crook obamanut2012 Sep 2012 #111

Girls at my school got slapped instead of paddling marshall Sep 2012 #36

Yeah, that sounds about like my highschool too. JoeyT Sep 2012 #46

I was paddled in 3rd grade. Ruby the Liberal Sep 2012 #50

lol, I'm 48 and OriginalGeek Sep 2012 #86

Ms. Cook, Mrs. Orwell, Ms. Sheriff, Mrs Ordner and Mr. Medrano Ash_F Sep 2012 #95

Second grade I lived in Kentucky OriginalGeek Sep 2012 #96

I got a slap on the rear loyalsister Sep 2012 #103

That's terrible. H2O Man Sep 2012 #4

It's very old, an old technique. Trillo Sep 2012 #53

God. I thought that said 'vice president' & I thought, 'oh great, what's Joe done now...' Drunken Irishman Sep 2012 #5

lol grantcart Sep 2012 #30

I'm not touching that one. Jennicut Sep 2012 #94

paddling in HS? Whiskey Tango Foxtrot mate.. JesterCS Sep 2012 #6

Springtown is a rural area in Texas Major Nikon Sep 2012 #9

I can't agree with her reason Major Nikon Sep 2012 #7

Can't america do BETTER than corporal punishment???? alp227 Sep 2012 #8

It's the direct consequence of letting conservatives have control of things Major Nikon Sep 2012 #11

" NO BODY expects the Spanish Inquisition" hockeynut57 Sep 2012 #106

Having it done by someone of the opposite sex makes it sexual and thus makes it worse. freedom fighter jh Sep 2012 #39

It can work either way Major Nikon Sep 2012 #42

She was complaining about the force used 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #56

This --- thare is a reason a female administrator watched the beating obamanut2012 Sep 2012 #114

There is a huge difference in a man spanking a HS female obamanut2012 Sep 2012 #113

I remember my grade school principal... lexw Sep 2012 #10

When I was a kid my folks never made us wear seatbelts Major Nikon Sep 2012 #13

I hear you... lexw Sep 2012 #19

Lawn darts seem like a good idea back then, too. My dad "spanked" us, too - and it was WRONG. marble falls Sep 2012 #33

Slip N Slides are banned too oberliner Sep 2012 #51

For good reasons. They great concepts and bad ideas, ones that came with bad ..... marble falls Sep 2012 #54

Any physical abuse is wrong obamanut2012 Sep 2012 #115

This is HIGH SCHOOL! mykpart Sep 2012 #12

In Texas you may not have a choice Major Nikon Sep 2012 #14

It's actually still legal in 19 states davidn3600 Sep 2012 #16

Here's a general list KansDem Sep 2012 #25

Heavily featured in "the pervert belt" Kolesar Sep 2012 #29

It is illegal in most NC school districts obamanut2012 Sep 2012 #116

My sons attended school in a small town in Texas. mykpart Sep 2012 #18

I don't know which school districts do this Major Nikon Sep 2012 #22

My folks raised me "Dr Spock" the guru, not the Vulcan. Then I'm 16 and my Dad threatens to spank me Tigress DEM Sep 2012 #17

The consequence to teaching your kids to think for themselves is they will do so Major Nikon Sep 2012 #21

Yeah, ain't it the truth. Tigress DEM Sep 2012 #99

i dunno PaulaFarrell Sep 2012 #24

I went to school. Got good grades. I went to church. I helped at Sunday school.... Tigress DEM Sep 2012 #98

The vulcan was never a doctor SemperEadem Sep 2012 #31

Right, but you say, "Spock" and most people see Leonard Nimoy's face. Tigress DEM Sep 2012 #100

you may do that, however, I don't. SemperEadem Sep 2012 #104

me too obamanut2012 Sep 2012 #119

I think that it is a little weird they are using it in high school too Nikia Sep 2012 #65

I always think of it this way: SheilaT Sep 2012 #15

"But having a teacher strike a child? That is absolutely unacceptable." lexw Sep 2012 #20

We don't have hall passes at work 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #57

Well, actually, you can. "Expulsion". n/t PavePusher Sep 2012 #60

They're never actually removed from school 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #61

Supposedly teachers and other union SheilaT Sep 2012 #62

Teachers can be fired 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #63

Gee, the Republican union haters say all the time SheilaT Sep 2012 #67

Yes and they're wrong 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #68

Are defending spanking SheilaT Sep 2012 #73

I'm defending it in this case 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #90

I posted that in thsi thread, too! obamanut2012 Sep 2012 #120

K&R DeSwiss Sep 2012 #23

Which Asimov modified from... garthranzz Sep 2012 #26

So, the mother was ok with corporal punishment... Did I Just Type This Sep 2012 #27

Yeah the choice of punishment doesnt seem to be the issue of concern to the mother davidn3600 Sep 2012 #28

I read it as she really wans't okay with it obamanut2012 Sep 2012 #121

both sides are in the wrong SemperEadem Sep 2012 #32

So the mom didn't mind if a woman spanked her? But not a man? proud2BlibKansan Sep 2012 #35

So it's ok for boys to get a hard paddling, but girls should get a gentle one? obxhead Sep 2012 #37

I don't think it has to do with the intensity of the paddling crim son Sep 2012 #41

That was exactly the problem. obxhead Sep 2012 #52

The exact quote: 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #58

Honestly, I still don't buy it. crim son Sep 2012 #69

I agree with you davidn3600 Sep 2012 #70

The implication is obvious 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #89

Texastan... QUALITYCONTRoll Sep 2012 #43

Should have stuck to two days suspension then. LisaL Sep 2012 #44

Mom agreed to it and, yes, it turns everyone's ass fire engine red, not just her daughter's. Poll_Blind Sep 2012 #45

What is wrong with that mother Heather MC Sep 2012 #47

What is wrong with that mother Heather MC Sep 2012 #48

She agreed to it, the kid agreed to it there was a female in the room 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #55

Minors cannot consent to a beating obamanut2012 Sep 2012 #122

The mom is a minor? 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #129

Being hit with a board, paddle or whatever you want to call it is not "spanking" 1monster Sep 2012 #59

I wonder if race was also an issue marshall Sep 2012 #64

no one should be paddling or being paddled Liberal_in_LA Sep 2012 #66

If the mom had left marks on her child like that, the school would have called CPS TxBluebonnetDem Sep 2012 #71

Hey HI TBD and welcome to DU... Tikki Sep 2012 #74

oh the irony handmade34 Sep 2012 #77

No one should ever strike a student..EVER... Tikki Sep 2012 #72

No one was struck Shitty Mitty Sep 2012 #83

If her bottom still looked bad by the time she got home Nikia Sep 2012 #92

Doing that to an adult is assault and battery obamanut2012 Sep 2012 #118

You keep saying that, but this still was assault and battery` obamanut2012 Sep 2012 #124

it is a handmade34 Sep 2012 #79

In 7th grade, Oklahoma.. defacto7 Sep 2012 #80

I know some may not think it's a big deal Catherine Vincent Sep 2012 #85

Violence against children is bullying. When adults do it, it's unforgivable. This man should be truthisfreedom Sep 2012 #87

Are you suggesting that everyone that spanks their kid should be in prison? davidn3600 Sep 2012 #88

I think everyone who spanks their kid should get one warning obamanut2012 Sep 2012 #125

I really don't understand the outrage of paddling. bamacrat Sep 2012 #91

Very interesting obamanut2012 Sep 2012 #126

Corporal punishment is illegal in Connecticut. And all of New England. Jennicut Sep 2012 #93

What the hell? I teach in a NY high school and we would NEVER allow this! adigal Sep 2012 #97

Is Texas living in the 19th century or what? Paddling? REALLY???? valerief Sep 2012 #101

I am SO glad I don't live in a State that's governed by psychopathy. 2ndAmForComputers Sep 2012 #102

Given that grades are so important to this student... Blasphemer Sep 2012 #105

The student volunteered to be paddled instead of 2 day suspension. LisaL Sep 2012 #107

That would have been a punishment that would have made a difference. Jamastiene Sep 2012 #130

If he did this to a coworker or to a neighborhood child, he would be arrested obamanut2012 Sep 2012 #108

Unreal that people still think Le Taz Hot Sep 2012 #112

If doing it to an adult would get you arrested obamanut2012 Sep 2012 #117

Glad it wasn't any of my kids... Kalidurga Sep 2012 #128

what the hell kind of school policy is this? grrrrrr wordpix Sep 2012 #134