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oldsarge54

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38. Funny how things Evolve

Sun Sep 23, 2012, 07:24 AM

Sep 2012

The original "Death Panel" scare was brought up when there was proposed language in the ACA to allow Doctors to discuss end of life treatments with the patient, rather than dodge the issue and pretend they are going to get well.

As for the new definition of death panel, people deciding whether treatment is called for or not, well, the "free market" insurance companies always had those. Bean counters who were unaccountable to anyone but the board of directors who determined what procedures would be paid for, the cost/benefit to the company (not the patient), and whether or not to count a procedure as experimental or "necessary." These decisions are not being made by doctors.

Ryan, it is you trying to divert attention. Shut up, stand up, salute, and go down with your ship.

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Paul Ryan Tells Florida Seniors That Obamacare Includes Death Panels [View all] Hissyspit Sep 2012 OP

Lyin'Ryan, Lyin'Ryan . . . . . Iliyah Sep 2012 #1

Hi would be pathetic if he weren't so evil spiderpig Sep 2012 #2

Ryan is a lyin'..again NEWYORKDEM Sep 2012 #9

Even if Ryan were correct, it would be better than some fool who earns bonuses or stock options Hoyt Sep 2012 #3

How can you tell Ryan is Lyin'? tavalon Sep 2012 #4

You could say that about any republican! n/t AAO Sep 2012 #27

He didn't happen to mention that he sits on one of those Downwinder Sep 2012 #5

Well, and why would he? He hates those old people BlueToTheBone Sep 2012 #10

Just MHO, but seniors are increasingly internet savvy. I believe they trust the AARP cr8tvlde Sep 2012 #6

So.. is it Paul Palin, or Sara Ryan rsweets Sep 2012 #7

Nice! lexw Sep 2012 #35

The Ryan-Romney health care plan includes Death Panels DreamGypsy Sep 2012 #8

Insurance companies have REAL, functioning death panels. annabanana Sep 2012 #11

Do we believe in democracy OR the power of wealth. Festivito Sep 2012 #37

See? "Going rogue," which was Palin's advice to the Romney campaign is just code for LYING. Th1onein Sep 2012 #12

he is one sick puppy.... fascisthunter Sep 2012 #13

This message was self-deleted by its author bupkus Sep 2012 #14

They are playing on Americans' neurotic fear of "rationing" Odin2005 Sep 2012 #15

Some people actually believe that there is a finite supply of health care in this nation. Ikonoklast Sep 2012 #23

It's going to be the death panel for his political career if he keeps it up jmowreader Sep 2012 #16

There's one in every state! Mopar151 Sep 2012 #17

That is a fucking FAKE question, planted. No one talks like that. progressivebydesign Sep 2012 #18

That was my thought as well. left on green only Sep 2012 #21

totally agree, my first thought wordpix Sep 2012 #28

Something Smells! chuckstevens Sep 2012 #19

Yes. As desperate as the stench of death. I've got news for Ryan: silvershadow Sep 2012 #20

He should be penalized for misleading seniors. Disgusting. The Wielding Truth Sep 2012 #22

He'll leave Congress The Wizard Sep 2012 #24

Ha that's good riverbendviewgal Sep 2012 #25

the questioner sounds like a plant, bringing up "death panels" is just too perfect a pitch wordpix Sep 2012 #26

What a fucking lying sack of StarryNite Sep 2012 #29

news flash to Ryan: most seniors with brains have written living wills & their wishes will be wordpix Sep 2012 #30

Whereas Ryan Vouchercare Would Eventually Leave Most Elderly People Uninsured AndyTiedye Sep 2012 #31

O...M...G!!! SoapBox Sep 2012 #32

Somebody should call him out Rosa Luxemburg Sep 2012 #33

Hey Hey, now Ryan is following in Sarah Palin's footsteps Zambero Sep 2012 #34

Did he tell AARPs about the Cha Sep 2012 #36

Funny how things Evolve oldsarge54 Sep 2012 #38

Read About it. Does it equate to "Death Panel"? rgbecker Sep 2012 #39