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BumRushDaShow

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28. Here in Philly, that has one of the higher concentrations of federal employees on the east coast
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 09:54 AM
Feb 2020

we did this routinely in my agency and others in this area. And the Co-Op program here was NOT "shut down" and was implemented here as needed/authorized depending on the workload, any vacancies, and any existing agreements with local colleges.

"Elsewhere" - particularly here in the Midatlantic and Northeast, have more federal employees than the south so you cannot make a blanket assertion based on that one region.

And as a note - the WG scale is done separately from the GS scale and is usually not part of what gets reported in the media about the "COLA pay increases" that get talked about with the annual budget. In fact, the WG scale is not always adjusted with the GS scale.

And you just proved my point about "workers in their 40s-50s" - which in their case as Wage Grade (meaning no college), they may have started with the government at age 17 or 18 and would have worked 25 - 40 years or more before getting that type of pay. They didn't start with that.

Yes it is a RW talking point to compare the pay of government workers who have been in their same positions for decades, with those who may be just starting out or who have only been working a few years and who are in no way getting that kind of salary. I know when I started as a GS-5 step 1 back during Raygun's 2nd term, my starting salary was ~$14,000 while comparable private industry was in the $30,000 - $50,000 range - but I ended up coming out of college during the Raygun recession so they weren't hiring.

And it's also insulting to attach a negative attribute to people who don't want to change jobs every 3 years chasing higher salaries and nowadays, private industry doesn't want to train on the job, which is why they keep trying to increase the H1B (and other) Visas. It's an insult to federal employees who keep this fucking country running day in and day out regardless of who is President.

I know I worked under 6 Presidents and did my job for the public. We have sadly been watching what RWers do to public servants over the past couple months, with the petty insults and vitriol.

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Huh? I thought the economy was doing great? MyOwnPeace Feb 2020 #2
This IS going to hurt retention underpants Feb 2020 #4
If I were them, I'd figure out how to retire before he reduces that % payout NotHardly Feb 2020 #5
And kickbacks and graft will be capped at %1000! jls4561 Feb 2020 #3
Yup! NotHardly Feb 2020 #6
In my area, Fed employees are VERY well paid. I'm fine with this. oldsoftie Feb 2020 #7
1% is more of a raise than I received Skittles Feb 2020 #9
exactly. oldsoftie Feb 2020 #13
can you believe Skittles Feb 2020 #44
WOW! It's.. Drahthaardogs Feb 2020 #45
Post removed Post removed Feb 2020 #18
Post removed Post removed Feb 2020 #19
Maybe you are not very good at your job? Drahthaardogs Feb 2020 #20
As a now-retired fed after 30+ years, those "6 figures" are people who have been FTEs for decades BumRushDaShow Feb 2020 #14
Who starts as a GS-1 or 2 anymore? Certainly not here. And we have 25k employees here. oldsoftie Feb 2020 #23
They bring in high school grads who, for example, may assist the mail clerks BumRushDaShow Feb 2020 #25
None of the facilities around here bring in high school students & havent for decades. oldsoftie Feb 2020 #26
Here in Philly, that has one of the higher concentrations of federal employees on the east coast BumRushDaShow Feb 2020 #28
Really??? Wuddles440 Feb 2020 #16
If the pay is so bad, then why dont we see an exodus from federal employment? oldsoftie Feb 2020 #24
Well, I hate to burst your bubble Drahthaardogs Feb 2020 #34
You've got to be kidding. People arent paid based on the amounts they handle. oldsoftie Feb 2020 #35
Like hell they don't Drahthaardogs Feb 2020 #36
Oh please. The OWNERS make the % money. You're most likely salary. oldsoftie Feb 2020 #38
Every. Single. One. Drahthaardogs Feb 2020 #39
I guess my friend is a liar. Or needs to move where YOU live. I msgd him to be clear; oldsoftie Feb 2020 #41
I didnt make tons of money. Drahthaardogs Feb 2020 #42
And a Contract Administrstor is NOT a Project Manager Drahthaardogs Feb 2020 #43
Seriously?? Blue_Tires Feb 2020 #27
Yeah, seriously. oldsoftie Feb 2020 #29
Sorry, but Blue_Tires Feb 2020 #32
He is angry and clueless Drahthaardogs Feb 2020 #37
Trying to drive Civil Servants out of the Federal Gov. maxsolomon Feb 2020 #8
I am breaking with my habit of being a Southern gentleman, here. Laelth Feb 2020 #10
... Quackers Feb 2020 #11
OK, fiscally responsible toadie, pay for your own golf outings for starters! Brainfodder Feb 2020 #12
To help pay for that obscene tax giveaway to corporations and the filthy rich. nt tblue37 Feb 2020 #15
Exactly. He gave his biddies a HUGE raise and we get the crumbs... nt mitch96 Feb 2020 #33
I think Trump was told to do this by Mitch as the Republicans want another shutdown as they cstanleytech Feb 2020 #17
You've probably hit the nail on the head. LOOK for a reason to shut it down oldsoftie Feb 2020 #30
They couldn't propose to large of a cut though because the voters might side with the Democrats cstanleytech Feb 2020 #31
Tax the rich. They can afford it. They made their money on back of public education & highways. nt Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2020 #21
It's good this coming out BEFORE the election. Use it. Tell people how it will be worse AFTER. nt Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2020 #22
No money left for working people or the poor... olddad65 Feb 2020 #40
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