Girls sue to block participation of transgender athletes

[mr_lebowski]

158. Excluding them would be not letting them play at all ...

If were going to let trans women compete in cis sports, there needs to be some sort of compromise ... which a lot of people got together and agreed upon when it came to high level sports like the Olympics ...

All I see anyone really advocating for here is applying the same, seemingly not terribly controversial, regulations to lower level (but still potentially very important) athletics.

If you're not bent out shape about the Olympics having the rules they do ... I'm not sure I quite understand your argument here, frankly.

And allow me to expound slightly on my original thought that started this thread re: dying this proverbial hill.

You know what I think the most powerful argument has always been against the assholes of the world that want to limit LGBTQ+ rights?

Unfortunately it's really not 'because it's the right thing to do'. It's the simple argument that 'we/they are not freaking HURTING ANYONE, so why is it your damn business?!?' This argument has ended up winning the day ... now, what was unthinkable 20 years ago has happened ... gays and lesbians can get legally married across the USA.

There's more to be done esp. in employment discrimination, but I think mostly it'll come eventually.

Point is, the good guys have been consistently winning these debates and securing rights ... and that's mainly because enough people were convinced ... this kind of thing doesn't hurt anyone else.

Pushing for biological males to get to compete in sports with biological females ... does not meet that criteria. This 'feels unfair' to a lot of people. Like you're hurting others by demanding a 'right' that actually kinda borders on privileges if I may say so.

Pushing hard on this issue is not going to go over well, and it's likely to cause a backlash. And it's going to be that way among a lot of women, who frankly have, all along, been statistically more supportive of LGBTQ+ rights all along vs males.

Accepting the compromise available to them ... hormone tests ... is the smart ploy in situation, from a practical standpoint. Don't die on this proverbial hill, not yet anyway. There's more important battles to fight, IMHO. Don't risk turn an important group of allies against you.

Just MHO, fwiw.