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Marksman_91

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2. Give me a break

Mon Sep 24, 2012, 09:57 PM

Sep 2012

Since when do Muslims (or any religion, for that matter) deserve some kind of special treatment? People are the same no matter what religion they follow. I have nothing against Muslim people. Hell, a bunch of my college friends are Muslims. But this group requesting this kind of action is giving a wrong image of Muslims being pretentious, self-entitled children. Do you see any other people from different religions demanding that all kinds of media making fun of their prophet (or their equivalent) be banned? Now, if the objective is banning media which sole purpose is to obviously promote hate, like "Innocence of Muslims" was, then I wouldn't have a problem. But banning media based on the fact that some people can't take a joke is really absurd.

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At U.N., free speech divides West and Muslim nations [View all] cali Sep 2012 OP

hypocrisy on every single side - no exceptions. marasinghe Sep 2012 #1

What is the hypocrisy of your side? nt ZombieHorde Sep 2012 #90

Give me a break Marksman_91 Sep 2012 #2

One man's religion is another man's joke LesserFool Sep 2012 #5

Well stated. I fully agree with your post. Quantess Sep 2012 #14

I have a question about free speech azurnoir Sep 2012 #17

Free speech on the DU? I don't think that is the topic, here. Quantess Sep 2012 #18

well I gave an example you are attempting to make it the subject azurnoir Sep 2012 #35

Hmm... DU has its own ideas about who is okay to offend and who isn't. Quantess Sep 2012 #51

but once again I am not the one attempting to conflate the 2 azurnoir Sep 2012 #52

LOL, what on god's green earth are you even talking about? Quantess Sep 2012 #60

yep and the 'chuckle' is mutual as you edited your comment after I made mine azurnoir Sep 2012 #82

I honestly did not see that you had replied before I made my edit for clarity. Quantess Sep 2012 #94

People are taught to be offended socialindependocrat Sep 2012 #103

I remember that! Ash_F Sep 2012 #20

There is a difference between christx30 Sep 2012 #21

DUers voluntarily quit the offensive speech Jackpine Radical Sep 2012 #27

If police were arresting people for typing mAnn Coulter, then that would be a violation of ZombieHorde Sep 2012 #91

yes it is oh so glorious especially when those "the most people" azurnoir Sep 2012 #16

You SO nailed it there. +1000000. closeupready Sep 2012 #55

No I will not give you a break. closeupready Sep 2012 #54

Wow... You got straight to the point, huh Marksman_91 Sep 2012 #99

Good luck with that. Socal31 Sep 2012 #3

As I pointed out in another thread... Speck Tater Sep 2012 #4

We do have a problem here Jessy169 Sep 2012 #6

That is right glacierbay Sep 2012 #9

Your point of view is identical to that of fanatical right-wing hatemongers Jessy169 Sep 2012 #29

My point of view is identical to that of fanatical right-wing hatemongers? glacierbay Sep 2012 #32

Yes, identical Jessy169 Sep 2012 #40

The difference you and I glacierbay Sep 2012 #45

RW Christians would take a Hate Speech law and then MicaelS Sep 2012 #50

Again DonCoquixote Sep 2012 #79

your quote, analyzed DonCoquixote Sep 2012 #83

So, glacierbay Sep 2012 #107

Hmmmmm. JDPriestly Sep 2012 #12

If the Muslim countries were consistent leftynyc Sep 2012 #24

OK, as someone who lives near terry Jones DonCoquixote Sep 2012 #77

The right to criticize the "sacred" is a part of any civilized society Donowitz Sep 2012 #7

Hate speech should not be banned. glacierbay Sep 2012 #25

Hate speech is not a relative matter. Donowitz Sep 2012 #37

U.S. Constitution grants the right to freedom of and from religion. kiranon Sep 2012 #8

No, it "grants" NOTHING. PavePusher Sep 2012 #15

Your reply shows you have a different concept of 'natural' from some others muriel_volestrangler Sep 2012 #22

The exceptional ability of humans to use language distinguishes us from all other species slackmaster Sep 2012 #26

If one is mute or autistic would they have a right to free speech kiranon Sep 2012 #80

Mute and autistic people do have at least part of normal human capacity to use language slackmaster Sep 2012 #86

So, our rights are allowed to us by government? PavePusher Sep 2012 #33

I would say by society muriel_volestrangler Sep 2012 #38

But our foundation documents allow government to curtail our rights only through due process of law slackmaster Sep 2012 #87

No, there's nothing there about 'all rights' muriel_volestrangler Sep 2012 #89

It doesn't explicitly say all rights exist except those that have been restricted through due... slackmaster Sep 2012 #93

I'd say it's the difference between an American and a non-American outlook muriel_volestrangler Sep 2012 #100

So we only have those Rights specifically listed? PavePusher Sep 2012 #96

I think rights can be listed outside a constitution as well as inside it muriel_volestrangler Sep 2012 #101

So, you don't have the right to get a tattoo unless it's been specifically discussed in public... slackmaster Sep 2012 #104

If there are age restrictions, then it doesn't sound like it's being treated as a natural right muriel_volestrangler Sep 2012 #105

The age of majority of 18 is the result of a consensus decision by the people slackmaster Sep 2012 #106

It's a fundamental difference of opinion that we can't overcome.. X_Digger Sep 2012 #109

Thanks for the link and the new Latin expression I'd never heard before slackmaster Sep 2012 #110

Explain the 9th Amendment ieoeja Sep 2012 #71

It says there can be other rights muriel_volestrangler Sep 2012 #81

Actually, it says there ARE other Rights... PavePusher Sep 2012 #98

Rather have my rights written in a document than to kiranon Sep 2012 #78

So, we have only those Rights that have been specifically listed in the Constitution? PavePusher Sep 2012 #95

Have you read the Magna Carta? Here's the first clause and a comment about the rest... slackmaster Sep 2012 #97

considering how much hatred is spewed by the religionists, they have no claims here nt msongs Sep 2012 #10

Good thing it's just the UN, or we might have to give a shit. trouble.smith Sep 2012 #11

Ha! nt ZombieHorde Sep 2012 #92

Interesting speculation azurnoir Sep 2012 #13

no, free speech whoever it offends. cali Sep 2012 #19

No, it doesn't say anything about Erdogan talking about this in person at the UN muriel_volestrangler Sep 2012 #23

yes indeed the article did nicely tie Erdogan and Morsy to Ahmadinejad didn't it ? azurnoir Sep 2012 #34

Would I approve of it glacierbay Sep 2012 #43

ummm there already is government reprisal of a sorts against that azurnoir Sep 2012 #47

No thers's not glacierbay Sep 2012 #48

but one can indeed be fined or sued for using hate speech azurnoir Sep 2012 #49

Only if that hate speech results in physical harm glacierbay Sep 2012 #53

really I suggest you rethink that or what would happen if one called a Black co-worker ni""er azurnoir Sep 2012 #58

I said if the words caused physical harm to the victim. glacierbay Sep 2012 #61

your a Police officer? what city? azurnoir Sep 2012 #62

You can sue for just about anything you want glacierbay Sep 2012 #63

well for your own health azurnoir Sep 2012 #65

Why? glacierbay Sep 2012 #66

No I've known people from both cities azurnoir Sep 2012 #74

Ok glacierbay Sep 2012 #85

Definitely minimum suspension, poss. job loss glacierbay Sep 2012 #64

okay I believe you but in the case of Mpls azurnoir Sep 2012 #69

Well I can assure that I'm not like that glacierbay Sep 2012 #70

yes it is and I am aware that not every Police department is like Mpls azurnoir Sep 2012 #72

Re. Hate speech dipsydoodle Sep 2012 #102

well despite the author of this articles gloom concerning Obama azurnoir Sep 2012 #39

Well, if you base censorship on who gets offended, it's bound to be subjective. nt bemildred Sep 2012 #31

indeed it is subjective and based on Western standards too azurnoir Sep 2012 #36

So what exactly is the Muslim standard? nt hack89 Sep 2012 #41

I actually don't know but at this point it seems to surround blasphemy or antiIslam azurnoir Sep 2012 #46

If their standard is the only option, I will pick western standards. hack89 Sep 2012 #56

how high minded of you I will pick my standards over theirs everytime azurnoir Sep 2012 #57

Individual freedom versus the mob - not a hard choice hack89 Sep 2012 #67

who is the 'mob'? azurnoir Sep 2012 #73

Those violent mobs all over the ME hack89 Sep 2012 #76

Yeah, I just think we'd have better luck if we had a better argument. bemildred Sep 2012 #68

Note to religious people, you do not have a right not to be offended. Odin2005 Sep 2012 #28

They're wrong. 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #30

Obama's response at the UN on freedom of speech pampango Sep 2012 #42

Very, very powerful and eloquent glacierbay Sep 2012 #44

Wow .. best speech ever. obnoxiousdrunk Sep 2012 #59

Thank You Sentath Sep 2012 #88

Awesome! nt fun n serious Sep 2012 #75

How about "international curbs" on executing people for being gay? Nye Bevan Sep 2012 #84

Bull Shit! M_M Sep 2012 #108

Freedom of speech is the fundamental human right Shitty Mitty Sep 2012 #111