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pat_k

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2. The reports of closures are coming fast and furious.
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 09:37 PM
Mar 2020

We are beginning to "lock down" big time.

As far as school closures, I can't help but wonder how we can cope with this as a nation as more and more people need to stay home just to take care of the kids -- never mind people staying home because they have a cold or flu that could be COVID-19.

Without information, we must assume the worst, and take more and more extreme "general" measures. And in doing so, face more and more disruptions of our lives and our economy.

Until large scale testing gets off the ground -- IF we get our act together and get it off the ground -- we really have no idea what we are ACTUALLY up against. Testing -- learning actual infection rates and spread in different areas -- allows for more targeted approach.

We need to identify as many asymptotic positives as possible and get them quarantined.

We need to prioritize identifying positives who live with or work with the most vulnerable people -- and get them AWAY from those people (and that means the ability to move people who live with vulnerable people, elsewhere).

Not testing people who are self-isolating with symptoms is insanity. We need to know who has has it, so when they recover, we have identified people who, are, at least for some period of time -- immune. We need to know which of the symptomatic just have a cold or flu, and are therefore still vulnerable to infection after they recover.

Without widespread testing, we don't know a god damn thing and can't coordinate any sort of effective, rational, response, aside from the closures of all public spaces, schools, and on and on.

Perhaps it's "too late" -- time to give up on doing massive, meaningful testing, and just "lock down." But I don't believe that. Whatever else we do, getting INFORMATION that can only be gotten through testing is vital to managing the crisis.




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It seems to me that those catching it are younger than BigmanPigman Mar 2020 #1
The reports of closures are coming fast and furious. pat_k Mar 2020 #2
I watched Pelosi's news presser this morning BigmanPigman Mar 2020 #3
Go Pelosi! Hope she backs up with legislation to fund efforts beyond CDC. pat_k Mar 2020 #4
THIS! Dem2theMax Mar 2020 #5
So what do we do about the asymptotic people in this country? cstanleytech Mar 2020 #6
Social distancing/good hygiene without isolation still makes a huge impact on flattening the curve. Pobeka Mar 2020 #7
Absolutely! pat_k Mar 2020 #9
True. But if we can do some amount of general "surveillance" testing... pat_k Mar 2020 #8
Everybody stay home Igel Mar 2020 #12
The problem I see with testing.... Bayard Mar 2020 #10
There must be some way to test for the presence of the antibody. pat_k Mar 2020 #11
People are commiting a category error. Igel Mar 2020 #14
Found this article. Not definitive, but most likely testing error or never actually "recovered" pat_k Mar 2020 #16
Great find, useful for understanding more about what might be happening. JudyM Mar 2020 #17
Thanks. I thought it was very useful too. pat_k Mar 2020 #18
If you walk through a room with a mask and it picks up virus that you would otherwise have inhaled JudyM Mar 2020 #19
If the mask doesn't fit, you are still breathing in the aerosol. pat_k Mar 2020 #20
Ok, complete agreement here. JudyM Mar 2020 #21
There's a possible resolution to the claim. Igel Mar 2020 #13
That makes sense Bayard Mar 2020 #15
OMG! "What's that?" Duppers Mar 2020 #22
Not that I don't think this is serious but Linda Ed Mar 2020 #23
In an information vacuum, people jump to their worst fears. pat_k Mar 2020 #24
Kick ck4829 Mar 2020 #25
Thx! pat_k Mar 2020 #26
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