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In reply to the discussion: Pot smokers don't puff away lung health: study [View all]RainDog
(28,784 posts)101. if you're interested
Here is a doctor who talks about current uses at a conference at UW-Madison Medical School in 2007.
David Bearman M.D., Santa Barbara, California, is one of the leading physicians in the U.S. in the field of medical marijuana. He has spent 40 years working in substance and drug abuse treatment and prevention programs. Dr. Bearman was a pioneer in the free and community clinic movement. His career includes public health, administrative medicine, primary care, pain management and cannabinology.
Bearman's not a pulmonary specialist, however. Dr. Tashkin is.
Tashkin recruited 400 people for an experiment (beyond the ones I linked to initially here.) These people had various levels of usage, including heavy usage.
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Part 1 looks at overall lung function and various studies.
Donald P. Tashkin, MD - Medical Director of the Pulmonary Function Laboratory, Professor of Medicine, University of California, Los Angeles. Presented to Fifth Clinical Conference on Cannabis Therapeutics held in Pacific Grove, CA, April, 2008
His findings in this study replicate his earlier studies. He includes a study from 2007 in New Zealand, another study in Arizona...
regular heavy smoking of cannabis is asso. with coughing and sputum. bronchitis. inflammation of the bronchia. that is not the same as lung disease.
he notes COPD, i.e. emphysema, is not evidenced with cannabis but it is with tobacco. loss of lung function...all lung function for the cannabis users was within the normal function in his large study. The New Zealand study confirmed this. The Arizona study found it might, in the future, lead to COPD.
COPD tends to occur later in life. This is why the study in the OP, a twenty-year study, is considered important b/c of the normal onset of COPD - or decrease in lung function.
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Part 2 looks at emphysema
The New Zealand study only found emphysema in the tobacco smokers.
He talks about 4 individuals who were reported with billae (not generalized emphysema) and those people were also associated with cigarette smoking.
Marijuana smokers, even if they smoked tobacco as well, as the same rate of lung function, over time, as non-smokers of any kind. Only tobacco-smokers had decreased lung function.
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Part 3 looks a lung cancer
I think what you find, often, is that the govt. has so consistently lied about the properties of cannabis, in general, that people in the U.S. who know about this history begin to have a "the boy who cried wolf" reaction.
The govt. has hurt its capacity, or anyone else's, to make a case about real issues concerning cannabis b/c of this long history of lying about the same.
People know about the bad studies the govt has done and tried to hide - like the one in which they suffocated monkeys and claimed mj causes brain damage - and then tried to deny access to others who wanted to look at the study. (That was in the 1980s.)
People know that the govt tried to make it hard to obtain early studies that other researchers sought out later b/c they didn't like the positive results of those studies. That's not science. That's politics.
This is why prohibition is such a bad idea. In order to maintain it, the govt has been so willing to lie or obscure that they have lost their authority among a population and have created disrespect for institutions that are supposed to exist to provide information, not support for bad law.
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Look for this to get misconstrued by the Pot is Safer Than Water Committee nt
Dreamer Tatum
Jan 2012
#2
Yes, everyone knows drawing unfiltered smoke into the lungs cannot possibly do any harm.
Dreamer Tatum
Jan 2012
#6
Instead of the idiotic request to have everyone here prove a negative, why don't you prove
EOTE
Jan 2012
#63
How can anyone possibly believe that breathing in smoke is good for your health?
randome
Jan 2012
#64
So these "mixed results" you're referring to is a person saying "Others have found hints of harm."
EOTE
Jan 2012
#76
calling anything "non-toxic" is like a giant blinking red light to anyone who knows what toxic means
enki23
Jan 2012
#44
If it ever kills someone I'll take it back. It is a fact that Cannabis is non-toxic.
tridim
Jan 2012
#46
Weed is safer than a lot of water in this country, which says more about the water than the weed.
McCamy Taylor
Jan 2012
#17
are they anything like the "i got nothing so let me pull my opinion outta my ass" committee?
frylock
Jan 2012
#30
Maybe it's all that weed I've smoked, but it seems half your posts are imaginary arguments no one
Guy Whitey Corngood
Jan 2012
#78
It is far past time that we legalize it and at the very least put that part of the stupid drug war
slay
Jan 2012
#14
Oh, are you saying that smoking doesn't occur in nature isn't a scientific fact?
caseymoz
Jan 2012
#91
Oh, and it looks like marijuana, even smoked, IS an effective treatment for asthma.
EOTE
Jan 2012
#93
All the available information suggests that marijuana alleviates the symptoms of asthma
EOTE
Jan 2012
#96
Please repost this, with the vid, in the Drug Policy forum as a stand-alone post
RainDog
Jan 2012
#85
Vaporizing the substance removes the toxins, period. As does eating the wonderful brownies.
byronius
Jan 2012
#49
It is becoming increasingly difficult to justify leaving pot possession illegal.
totodeinhere
Jan 2012
#50
Doesnt damage lungs, doesnt impair motor skills, isnt addictive, dozens of legitimate medical uses
Warren Stupidity
Jan 2012
#68
I'm not someone that every wants to use drugs or support them personally..
Corruption Winz
Jan 2012
#80