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Scootaloo

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31. As the report says...

Wed Sep 26, 2012, 02:03 AM

Sep 2012

Most of those 100,000,000 people will be in places like Bangladesh, Indonesia, sub-Saharan Africa, and central Asia.

In other words, as far as the major polluters - who are also the nations with the best shot at fixing the problem - are concerned.. this is a problem for those brown-skinned Dirt-Worshipers in Farawayistan; fuck 'em.

Does the US give a shit about famine in the Mddle East?
Does China give a flying fuck about floods in South Asia?
Does Europe give a good goddamn about Central African desertification?

Let me spell out how much the average American is concerned for the melanistic heathens of Farawayistan. Upon news that what was effectively a slave revolt shut down a Foxconn factory in China, the burning question in the minds of Americans was "But will my iPhone 5 ship on time?"

We're not going to give a shit about this until it's 33% of America dropping dead. And even then, plenty of our body politic will be claiming that they "deserved it" for not bootstrapping or something.

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100 Million Will Die by 2030 If World Fails to Act on Climate: Report [View all] Hissyspit Sep 2012 OP

this is kind of the reason I push for creative solutions a geek named Bob Sep 2012 #1

Twice as many will die from nuclear war in that time. bananas Sep 2012 #53

Statistics based on one data point? Really? NickB79 Sep 2012 #59

A tiny clip from the Ag report yesterday indicated Ilsa Sep 2012 #2

Exactly what kind of government intervention? dkf Sep 2012 #5

I guess it depends on severity Ilsa Sep 2012 #10

But more funds don't solve shortages, that just keeps it here instead of for export. dkf Sep 2012 #12

The idea would be to keep the farm and ranch operations going until Ilsa Sep 2012 #52

Unless, of course, they'll never be profitable again NickB79 Sep 2012 #60

Yes, that or shift production to Ilsa Sep 2012 #68

RW cheers at this. They want the poor dead. And it WILL be the poor who die. kestrel91316 Sep 2012 #3

And as the world gets poorer, more of us will become eligible for the privilege nt GliderGuider Sep 2012 #78

Every Presidential Election is a Fork in the Road of our Future AZ Progressive Sep 2012 #4

What can the President do on his own? Doesn't he need congress? dkf Sep 2012 #6

Is that a serious question or rhetorical? rhett o rick Sep 2012 #8

I'm wondering how much he can accomplish by executive order or whatever. dkf Sep 2012 #13

It should be... defacto7 Sep 2012 #23

True. It's too bad they didn't do more for renewables. dkf Sep 2012 #29

How do you propose to focus Congressional attention on climate change? lunatica Sep 2012 #39

Is it even remotely possible for us to do anything to prevent this? Nature will win, mark my words. rhett o rick Sep 2012 #7

It may still be possible, but is it probable? Matilda Sep 2012 #11

Selfish is right. Why should I cut back when the other guy wont? nm rhett o rick Sep 2012 #55

If nature has a personality . . . Richard D Sep 2012 #16

You can purchase carbon credits... hughee99 Sep 2012 #63

Not even a dent SHRED Sep 2012 #9

And the controversy roiling the nation today? hatrack Sep 2012 #14

+10000 Blue_Tires Sep 2012 #44

Ha! Silly humans arguing over games while sinking on the Titanic. ZombieHorde Sep 2012 #51

That's all? RoccoR5955 Sep 2012 #15

It's the figure by 2030 muriel_volestrangler Sep 2012 #33

The melting of polar ice is going on much faster than "they" predicted RoccoR5955 Sep 2012 #56

That is the floating sea ice, not the ice on land muriel_volestrangler Sep 2012 #58

Greenland has also been melting faster than earlier predicted. RoccoR5955 Sep 2012 #61

But not at the huge rate needed to change sea levels significantly by 2030 muriel_volestrangler Sep 2012 #65

Neither can scientists RoccoR5955 Sep 2012 #75

Rising sea level isn't the most immediate GW threat IDemo Sep 2012 #69

Yes, but #15 was about sea level change muriel_volestrangler Sep 2012 #74

The near term problem isn't sea level rise, it's rainfall changes. GliderGuider Sep 2012 #73

Very well within the realm of possibility........ AverageJoe90 Sep 2012 #17

Well there is a new coronavirus which is SARS like Mojorabbit Sep 2012 #19

So the question now is how we get the message across to Jamaal510 Sep 2012 #18

We ignore them. The threat is too serious to educate them. Comrade_McKenzie Sep 2012 #22

Uh-huh. Llewlladdwr Sep 2012 #25

WTF? I love weed Sep 2012 #46

We don't. We make changes in our own lives magical thyme Sep 2012 #49

Trying too hard. 2ndAmForComputers Sep 2012 #83

It's worse than that. They don't just think it's a hoax. Tea Partying End Timers are spreading patrice Sep 2012 #28

Not necessary - it's too late for preemptive education GliderGuider Sep 2012 #79

Since the end of the world is coming next week/month/year, this shit is all immaterial Bozita Sep 2012 #20

Something more than a democratic process needs to bring about a solution... Comrade_McKenzie Sep 2012 #21

The deniers will just go right on saying "Those 100 million would have died anyway." Speck Tater Sep 2012 #24

K&R but M_M Sep 2012 #26

If we can get around these F-ing End Timers, we could get some churches to help on this. patrice Sep 2012 #27

Sadly, if this was a Hitler or Tojo etc, we would mobilize to defeat it ErikJ Sep 2012 #30

As the report says... Scootaloo Sep 2012 #31

Climate change imo is a lesser problem though when compared to the human population as a whole which cstanleytech Sep 2012 #32

Climate change may ultimately "solve" the problem of population growth. GliderGuider Sep 2012 #37

No! Billions will die. longship Sep 2012 #34

Over the next century, I agree. GliderGuider Sep 2012 #38

I guarantee that at least 7 billion people will die over the next century slackmaster Sep 2012 #48

But that's not really the point now, is it? nt GliderGuider Sep 2012 #50

Heh. Comrade Grumpy Sep 2012 #57

"And the money kept rollin in." Vidar Sep 2012 #35

It is inevitable that something will take a bunch of us out adigal Sep 2012 #36

Are we on the cusp of global collapse? GliderGuider Sep 2012 #40

2030 will only be the beginning of the Big Die Off lunatica Sep 2012 #41

I keep thinking of the word "bottleneck". GliderGuider Sep 2012 #42

Right if its that bad in 2030 marions ghost Sep 2012 #43

I agree with your take on the situation lunatica. Uncle Joe Sep 2012 #82

Personally, I think we'll have World War III (or something close) Blue_Tires Sep 2012 #45

We now have more suicides deaths than people killed in car wrecks in this country alone... Javaman Sep 2012 #47

Other assessments are quite a bit more dire GliderGuider Sep 2012 #54

Good riddance. sir pball Sep 2012 #62

Malthusian Catastrophe Theory has been around for more than 300 years slackmaster Sep 2012 #64

Indeed sir pball Sep 2012 #70

How much did Malthus know about rainfall changes due to global warming? GliderGuider Sep 2012 #71

Optimistic november3rd Sep 2012 #66

If one was just thinking about climate this might be a decent estimate. However GliderGuider Sep 2012 #72

I agree. i TexasBushwhacker Sep 2012 #84

This is what God wants. Ask any Teabagger. JRLeft Sep 2012 #67

Romney does not believe in this climate CHANGE Denise21 Sep 2012 #76

I'm guessing far more than 100 million will die even if the world acts on climate change tularetom Sep 2012 #77

I think we may already be passed the point of no return davidn3600 Sep 2012 #80

we passed the tipping point long ago. By the 2030, the survivors will envy the dead. olddad56 Sep 2012 #81

Ah, but it's such a small price to pay for being able to drive a Humvee! primavera Sep 2012 #85