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Ms. Toad

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11. This is EXTREMELY misleading -
Thu Apr 9, 2020, 05:13 PM
Apr 2020

This paragraph captures the FALSE narrative the chart (intentionally or otherwise) conveys

According to a graph published Tuesday by Dr. Maria Danilychev, who practices in San Diego, COVID-19 is the cause of 1,970 deaths in the U.S. per day. Just last week, COVID-19 was the third leading cause of death, averaging around 748 deaths per day, but as the virus has continued to spread, the increase in daily deaths have followed. In comparison to COVID-19 fatalities, 1,774 deaths are attributed to heart disease and 1,641 to cancer.


The chart referred to plots the COVID 19 deaths on a specific day, against the average deaths for each other cause.

The AVERAGE COVID 19 deaths are currently between 350 and 400. NOT 1970.

In case the problem is not clear - what average means is that from from the beginning of the measuring period, the total number of deaths is equivalent to the average number of peopld dying every single day during the period. In other words, as if 1774 people died from heart disease every single day since the deaths from COVID 19 first started. In contrast, the COVID 19 deaths started at zero, and increased over time, so to compare to the average heart disease deaths, you have to add every single COVID 19 death up, and divide by the number of days since people started dying of COVID 19. When you do that you find that (depending on what you use as the starting day) the average is between 350 and 400.

This is bad, to be sure, but it is not averaging around 1970 per day, as the graph (and this article) imply.

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Some hoax, some flu, some "panic", hunh? It's the Trump Catastrophe. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2020 #1
I think he did it on purpose jimfields33 Apr 2020 #26
0:04 / 0:52 Donald Trump: You gonna win so much you may even get tired of winning Botany Apr 2020 #2
Question to ask tRump cultists: Are you sick of winning or just sick? Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2020 #3
Good question! burrowowl Apr 2020 #4
Yes, the trumpepidemic is raging stronger it seems and it's affecting all of the rump idiots ... SWBTATTReg Apr 2020 #5
For the 3 minutes that I could stand of it I watched in horror last night of that Laura I. person .. Botany Apr 2020 #9
Don't get excited SpankMe Apr 2020 #6
It may still be true that compared with average deaths for each cause Igel Apr 2020 #7
well, not really, they are using statistics taken may months ago, long before the stay at home order yaesu Apr 2020 #8
So you are suggesting that because people are staying at home, they are no longer LisaL Apr 2020 #10
The "more to the story" has nothing to do with other causes dropping Ms. Toad Apr 2020 #12
Chicago had 21 shooting the other day. How does that happen in a everyone stays home jimfields33 Apr 2020 #27
This is EXTREMELY misleading - Ms. Toad Apr 2020 #11
Average daily deaths from heart disease and cancer presumably stay nearly constant over the year. LisaL Apr 2020 #13
On a handful of days it caused more deaths than the other illnesses. Ms. Toad Apr 2020 #14
it's showing deaths per day unblock Apr 2020 #15
You're completely missing my point. Ms. Toad Apr 2020 #17
Ok, a fine distinction. unblock Apr 2020 #18
Not unless the others are averages for that one day. Ms. Toad Apr 2020 #19
I see no problem in comparing actual covid19 deaths to averages of other causes unblock Apr 2020 #24
It is NOT clear without a label that distinguishes the COVID 19 bar from the others. Ms. Toad Apr 2020 #25
It almost certainly does make it the leading cause of death ... ON THAT DAY ... mr_lebowski Apr 2020 #16
But that's not how it is being reported. Ms. Toad Apr 2020 #22
It's pretty clear what it is showing. Chemisse Apr 2020 #20
So why did Newsweek get it wrong? Ms. Toad Apr 2020 #21
Here is a very cool day-by-day visualization that shows the change since March 1 Chemisse Apr 2020 #23
Kenneth Dopeland... I mean Copeland's casting away Satan did not work rpannier Apr 2020 #28
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