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Ms. Toad

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14. On a handful of days it caused more deaths than the other illnesses.
Thu Apr 9, 2020, 05:53 PM
Apr 2020

That doesn't make it a leading cause of death.

Does a single bad plane crash transform flying from one of the safest forms fo transformation into a leading cause of death becuase it kills more people than strokes, for example? No I know would seriously make that argument.

And even if you want to define it atypically, you need to be crystal clear that you are comparing apples to oranges. People are struggling to wrap their minds around the pandemic math. It isirresponsible to portray data in a way anyone who thinks about it for 2 seconds could predict would be misinterpreted by most who see it.

Even Newsweek looked at the chart and repeated what it believed the chart was showing (average daily deaths from COVID 19) without bothering to check the math. When the chart first appeared, I started to respond to an inquiry about it - I knew there was something off about the numbers - but a quick glance at the chart and its labels didn't tell me what was wrong about it. I actually had to go back to the data and calculate it myself before it became clear to me what was "off" in the chart - and the pandemic numbers have always been intuitive to me.

I have seen at least three threads, now, in which people accepted - without question - that what was being displayed was an average daily death rate from COVID 19.

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Question to ask tRump cultists: Are you sick of winning or just sick? Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2020 #3
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Don't get excited SpankMe Apr 2020 #6
It may still be true that compared with average deaths for each cause Igel Apr 2020 #7
well, not really, they are using statistics taken may months ago, long before the stay at home order yaesu Apr 2020 #8
So you are suggesting that because people are staying at home, they are no longer LisaL Apr 2020 #10
The "more to the story" has nothing to do with other causes dropping Ms. Toad Apr 2020 #12
Chicago had 21 shooting the other day. How does that happen in a everyone stays home jimfields33 Apr 2020 #27
This is EXTREMELY misleading - Ms. Toad Apr 2020 #11
Average daily deaths from heart disease and cancer presumably stay nearly constant over the year. LisaL Apr 2020 #13
On a handful of days it caused more deaths than the other illnesses. Ms. Toad Apr 2020 #14
it's showing deaths per day unblock Apr 2020 #15
You're completely missing my point. Ms. Toad Apr 2020 #17
Ok, a fine distinction. unblock Apr 2020 #18
Not unless the others are averages for that one day. Ms. Toad Apr 2020 #19
I see no problem in comparing actual covid19 deaths to averages of other causes unblock Apr 2020 #24
It is NOT clear without a label that distinguishes the COVID 19 bar from the others. Ms. Toad Apr 2020 #25
It almost certainly does make it the leading cause of death ... ON THAT DAY ... mr_lebowski Apr 2020 #16
But that's not how it is being reported. Ms. Toad Apr 2020 #22
It's pretty clear what it is showing. Chemisse Apr 2020 #20
So why did Newsweek get it wrong? Ms. Toad Apr 2020 #21
Here is a very cool day-by-day visualization that shows the change since March 1 Chemisse Apr 2020 #23
Kenneth Dopeland... I mean Copeland's casting away Satan did not work rpannier Apr 2020 #28
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