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Warpy

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33. Wow, where did you hear a thing like that?
Sun May 10, 2020, 03:40 AM
May 2020

While his crew might have introduced the disease, the Carib tribe had absolutely no use for blankets.

The tactic was discussed in the Siege of Fort Pitt in 1763 but it is unknown if they tried to carry it out. For one thing, smallpox is an incredibly fragile virus that has to be maintained at a constant temperature and preferably encased in scab material to survive at all away from human tissue. Transporting blankets at that time would not have provided ideal temperature and humidity to deliver any live virus. The idea was a dreadful one and it most likely would never have worked.

Smallpox was used as a bio weapon in mediaeval times, bodies of the recently dead lobbed over city and castle walls via trebuchet, and that did work as long as the bodies were fresh.

So that blanket story is historical fiction, along with blaming the American tribes for introducing syphilis to Europe. Archaeology has discovered congenital syphilis in children entombed in Aplontis near Pompeii and in a monastery burial ground in England, far predating New World exploration. It's an old disease in Europe, they were just looking for it in the wrong places. It was centered in port cities and most people didn't live long enough for the tertiary disease to show up on their bones. Examining the teeth of children is where to find it, along with monastery burials when the order specialized in hospice care.

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I wonder if they can use any help. James48 May 2020 #1
you can donate here: diva77 May 2020 #9
Saves Repugs cost of blankets. outasync May 2020 #2
OUCH Me. May 2020 #6
Not sure what you mean. Could you elaborate? ancianita May 2020 #12
Columbus introduced small pox to the Americas by giving natives contaminated blankets tclambert May 2020 #14
I Have Always RobinA May 2020 #16
I tried to look it up before I posted. All I found was that it's in dispute. tclambert May 2020 #19
There are some books out there that explains to some degree about this issue.............. turbinetree May 2020 #45
Please Google 'Lord Jeffrey Amherst' - well documented A2er May 2020 #66
Wow, where did you hear a thing like that? Warpy May 2020 #33
I believe that was Col. Henry Bouquet during the French & Indian war Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2020 #51
Smallpox blankets rumleyfips May 2020 #64
Smallpox infected blankets were purposely given to Native American people Stainless May 2020 #15
Both the British and the Americans did this. iemitsu May 2020 #30
Not really. Igel May 2020 #44
I taught US history for 30 years. iemitsu May 2020 #47
Before people even knew about germs? former9thward May 2020 #37
People understood contagion, just not the mechanisms behind it NickB79 May 2020 #42
Because they believed in the Miasma theory former9thward May 2020 #49
People could recognize that something caused the spread of illness iemitsu May 2020 #48
Because they believed in the Miasma theory former9thward May 2020 #50
Exactly. BlancheSplanchnik May 2020 #61
the Cheyenne River Sioux Tribe Chairman Harold Frazier also said: "Ignorant statements and fiery iluvtennis May 2020 #3
Well said TryLogic May 2020 #54
Very important elleng May 2020 #4
She Cleary States an US vs Them econron May 2020 #5
ICE agents have placed road-blocks and check points all across the American Southwest. iemitsu May 2020 #31
Conservatives acting on their fascist ideology. Nitram May 2020 #7
Question: pazzyanne May 2020 #8
The aren't allowed to unilaterally close US and state highways. ripcord May 2020 #41
Is it just me. Every time I see.her, or read her, I am reminded of the Alaska grifter. niyad May 2020 #10
We have a similar problem here in Iowa 47of74 May 2020 #36
Right on, do what's right for the people, tell the fascists to take a flying leap. nt yaesu May 2020 #11
On a map, SD shows only two state highways in the North rez and one on the South rez. No major ancianita May 2020 #13
It's not an Interstate... reACTIONary May 2020 #23
I said that the roads weren't interstates. That's not the issue. The state roads can be considered ancianita May 2020 #24
And, I wouldn't want the inconvenience either... reACTIONary May 2020 #26
Mankind is my business. Remember that from Scrooge? I'd be honored to help the Indians protect ancianita May 2020 #28
I support the Sioux tribe all the way in this dispute. totodeinhere May 2020 #17
What the Sioux are doing makes total sense. TryLogic May 2020 #55
I'd Be Curious RobinA May 2020 #18
Here is the memorandum from the Bureau of Indian Affairs... reACTIONary May 2020 #20
As a Liberal, and a Civil Libertarin... reACTIONary May 2020 #21
One would think so I guess GusBob May 2020 #39
Unless the treaty allows them to control all the roads in and out of the reservation I predict them cstanleytech May 2020 #22
Maybe they'll lose, but they won't go down without a fight. More unlike the beach analogy than like ancianita May 2020 #25
Here is what the Bureau of Indian Affairs says ... reACTIONary May 2020 #27
If I am reading it correctly they can close the tribally owned roads but the question is can they do cstanleytech May 2020 #32
That is my understanding. As far as I can tell... reACTIONary May 2020 #35
Perhaps you misspoke GusBob May 2020 #38
Doing so on tribe owned roads are fine the state though if I am reading it correctly cstanleytech May 2020 #43
You are right, they are not closing roads... reACTIONary May 2020 #53
Gee, Repubs keep talking about freedom from government interference so folks can protect themselves. SunSeeker May 2020 #29
Yes it is JustAnotherGen May 2020 #34
they can always blow up the roads... not_the_one May 2020 #40
Reminds me of Rhode Island trying to block New Yorkers from entering Steelrolled May 2020 #46
Harold Frazier is my new hero🙂 nt Javaman May 2020 #52
.....Oh, Dear Governor..... titanicdave May 2020 #56
The Sioux are doing the right thing. burrowowl May 2020 #57
THIS: "save lives rather than save face" Beartracks May 2020 #58
She is disgusting marieo1 May 2020 #59
Cheyenne River Sioux Tribe won't remove virus checkpoints jimlup May 2020 #60
Good for them is right! bluestarone May 2020 #62
These tribes are doing their best to keep COVID 19 off the reservation yellowdogintexas May 2020 #63
Feds (ICE and BP), States and even Cities establish checkpoints frequently. MarcA May 2020 #65
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